The night is dark and full of sophomores. We were due a down year, but it's back to hunting banners.
Thread to be updated as new developments emerge.
RETURNING PLAYERS:
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#35 Udoka Azubuike - Sr.
#44 Mitch Lightfoot - Sr.
#0 Marcus Garrett - Jr.
#22 Silvio De Sousa - Jr. (!!!!!)
#11 Devon Dotson - Soph.
#30 Ochai Agbaji - Soph.
#33 David McCormack - Soph.
#12 Chris Teahan - Jr.
#20 Garrett Luinstra - Soph.
#10 Elijah Elliott - Soph.
LEAVING PLAYERS:
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#1 Dedric Lawson - DRAFT
#13 K.J. Lawson - TRANSFER
#2 Charlie Moore - CRUSHED BY A DWARF
#5 Quentin Grimes - TRANSFER
INCOMING PLAYERS:
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SF Jalen Wilson****
6'8" 215 lbs
47 NATIONAL
9 POSITION
SF Christian Braun ****
6'6" 180lb
90 NATIONAL
24 POSITION
SF Tristan Enaruna ****
6'9" 205lb
44 NATIONAL
25 POSITION
TRANSFER Isaiah Moss
SENIOR
6'5" 208lb
IMPORTANT GAMES:
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University of Kansas Athletics
2019-20 Men's Basketball Schedule
Subject to change. All times Central.
NOV 5 (TUE) TBA VS DUKE STATE FARM CHAMPIONS CLASSIC
NEW YORK, N.Y. MADISON SQUARE GARDEN
MAUI INVITATIONAL
ESPN
NOV 25 (MON) - NOV 27 (WED) vs TBD MAUI INVITATIONAL
LAHAINA, HAWAII LAHAINA CIVIC CENTER
DEC 21 (SAT) AT VILLANOVA
VILLANOVA, PA. WELLS FARGO ARENA
DEC 29 (SUN) AT STANFORD
STANFORD, CALIF. MAPLES PAVILION
PHILLIPS 66 BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP
MAR 11 (WED) VS TBA
BIG 12 FIRST ROUND
KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER
MAR 12 (THU) VS TBA
BIG 12 QUARTERFINAL
KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER
MAR 13 (FRI) VS TBA
BIG 12 SEMIFINAL
KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER
MAR 14 (SAT) VS TBA
BIG 12 FINAL
KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER
NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP
MAR 19 (THU)
MAR 20 (FRI)
NCAA FIRST ROUND
ALBANY, N.Y. / SPOKANE, WASH. / ST. LOUIS, MO. / TAMPA, FLA. / GREENSBORO, N.C. / OMAHA, NEB. / SACRAMENTO, CALIF. / CLEVELAND, OHIO
MAR 21 (SAT) MAR 22 (SUN)
CBS / TURNER
NCAA SECOND ROUND
ALBANY, N.Y. / SPOKANE, WASH. / ST. LOUIS, MO. / TAMPA, FLA. / GREENSBORO, N.C. / OMAHA, NEB. / SACRAMENTO, CALIF. / CLEVELAND, OHIO
MAR 26 (THU) MAR 27 (FRI)
NCAA SWEET SIXTEEN
INDIANAPOLIS, IND. / LOS ANGELES, CALIF. / HOUSTON, TEXAS / NEW YORK, N.Y.
MAR 28 (SAT) MAR 29 (SUN)
NCAA ELITE EIGHT
INDIANAPOLIS, IND. / LOS ANGELES, CALIF. / HOUSTON, TEXAS / NEW YORK, N.Y.
APR 4 (SAT)
NCAA FINAL FOUR
ATLANTA, GA. MERCEDES-BENZ STADIUM
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I think he’s already in Selfs dog house though. The punches probably wouldn’t do it, but picking up the stool is going too far. The intent was there.
Self has never been one to end someone's KU career over one emotional moment. He will give 2nd chances. [Reply]
There is absolutely no reason to believe Self has bad blood with a player just because they are not getting playing time. He has sat, even red-shirted, a lot of talented players and they have been fine. [Reply]
I haven't rewatched since I saw it live, but it seemed like Garrett had the look and demeanor of someone trying to PROTECT mom jeans from McCormack. McCormack went stomping over there with intent to continue the dust up but Garrett seemed to be blocking him from being able to really get at his prey. [Reply]
This shit is all levels of unacceptable, and frankly embarrassing. My wife pointed out that a girl in the crowd looked to get hurt. Jesus Christ.
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
My wife and I watched the replay several times.
De Sousa threw punches. McCormack ran into the middle and tried to throw punches. Garrett got in the middle of it too, but you couldn’t tell what he did.
My guess is De Sousa is off the team. Garrett and McCormack might get suspended.
For sure Garrett shoved a KSU player after coaches got everyone apart. Which is a bad look. It is hard to tell who’s trying to get dudes apart and who’s looking to break faces. I think McCormack went in to break shit up and got rolled into the fight. Same with Garrett.
What a cluster fuck.
Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish:
That was a straight up brawl. All over a GD block and a little gamesmanship.
Nice job controlling the guys, Bruce.
Yeah. Street clothes fool rushing DeSousa is bush league but that’s a god awful look for both teams. All over a game that wasn’t even particularly hotly contested or rough game. Dumbfuckery abound. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
If I had to pick a college basketball team to fight, it wouldn’t be KU. Doke, McCormack, De Sousa...no thanks.
LOL. Right?
Basketball players notoriously fight like pussies but if any of those giant motherfuckers actually know how to throw hands everyone is fucked. There is nothing you can do against wingspans like that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
I’m struggling to think of a comparable situation to this one. Do you have one?
There hasnt been anything comparable to this under Self. But after Giles, Giddens, hell even the Morris twins shooting people with air rifles...there is a reason non-KU fans think of Self as giving multiple chances to "thugs".
I also think there were multiple (non-violent) incidents with Vick and Thaarpe.
Anyway my point is not to bring all this up, just saying Self has been known for giving 2nd chances, and believing in his kids, even when it hurts his PR. [Reply]
Basketball players notoriously fight like pussies but if any of those giant mother****ers actually know how to throw hands everyone is ****ed. There is nothing you can do against wingspans like that.
This was my first thought as they all seemed to get near the crowd. You got some big mother ****ers [Reply]
Originally Posted by sedated:
There hasnt been anything comparable to this under Self. But after Giles, Giddens, hell even the Morris twins shooting people with air rifles...there is a reason non-KU fans think of Self as giving multiple chances to "thugs".
I also think there were multiple (non-violent) incidents with Vick and Thaarpe.
Anyway my point is not to bring all this up, just saying Self has been known for giving 2nd chances, and believing in his kids, even when it hurts his PR.
I think the basketball team once fought the football team (which is retarded). But yeah nothing like that on the floor. [Reply]
Weber was quoted as saying he told his kids to back off, and took blame for it (the kids not listening).
Was a high-road/classy thing to say, though he did say he understood the competitive nature, etc.
I've played quite a bit of ball in my life, and I've always felt if you're up 20, and you're "doing the right thing" by not trying to run up the score on the last shot clock, it's a bit of a bush-league move to not honor that.
So with that said, I have no problem with the block by DeSousa......and hell, I dont even mind the technical foul for intimidation thereafter - but everything after that was a shit-show, and they should know better.
I guess my question is - how the hell did it get that out of hand? Where was bench players, where was coaches, where was security?
I can only assume the handshake line had started and people were too far away to intervene/stop it quickly?? [Reply]