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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Donger 07:10 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
True we won't likely get to 12,000 deaths in the first 12 months of China Flu like we did H1N1.
I have no idea why you're replying to that post about SARS v1.0 with H1N1.

But, besides that, I agree actually. I don't think that we'll get to that many deaths with COVID-19. Why not? Because we locked down.
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Marcellus 07:11 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
Speaking to reporters earlier this month, Brett Giroir, assistant secretary for health at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, called attention to the "denominator problem"—i.e., the exclusion of many people with mild or nonexistent symptoms from official counts of confirmed COVID-19 infections. Giroir noted that "the typical mortality rate for seasonal flu is about 0.1 percent or 0.15 percent." By contrast, "the best estimates now for the overall mortality rate for COVID-19 is somewhere between 0.1 percent and 1 percent."

You dont say? :-)
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Donger 07:12 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I see you have gone to the proven Donger tactic of shifting goal posts and arguing your own qualifiers. Shocking.
I haven't shifted anything. You're attempting to compare SARS-CoV-2 to H1N1, for whatever reason. You were told they are apples and oranges. You were told that one was influenza, and the other is not. You were given numbers regarding R0 and CFR, and how they aren't remotely the same.

Yet, you ignore the data and the facts. Which is what you do.
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Marcellus 07:12 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I have no idea why you're replying to that post about SARS v1.0 with H1N1.

But, besides that, I agree actually. I don't think that we'll get to that many deaths with COVID-19. Why not? Because we locked down.

:-)
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O.city 07:13 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
The CFR for SARS v1.0 is established.
Yes I was talking about for covid19
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Donger 07:13 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
My guess would be in the .2 or .3 range BUT that should drop considerably if the HCQ and AZ treatment proves to be effective on a large scale. We should know by next Monday, if that is the case and we have ample supplies, there is no excuse not to start opening things up again.
And that would be fantastic news.
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Donger 07:14 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
You dont say? :-)
Do you understand what these percentages mean Marcellus-understandable figures?

Giroir noted that "the typical mortality rate for seasonal flu is about 0.1 percent or 0.15 percent." By contrast, "the best estimates now for the overall mortality rate for COVID-19 is somewhere between 0.1 percent and 1 percent
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O.city 07:14 PM 03-23-2020
We aren’t knowing about those studies with the therapeutics that fast
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Marcellus 07:14 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I haven't shifted anything. You're attempting to compare SARS-CoV-2 to H1N1, for whatever reason. You were told they are apples and oranges. You were told that one was influenza, and the other is not. You were given numbers regarding R0 and CFR, and how they aren't remotely the same.

Yet, you ignore the data and the facts. Which is what you do.
Its not apples to oranges when comparing flu pandemics in this country so just stop that BS outright. You are the one who decided to start talking CoV-1.

You dont get to pick your own qualifiers like you try to do in every argument.
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Donger 07:15 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
:-)
That's a good start.
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eDave 07:15 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Im on 169 Goddamn how many post per page you running?
80
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O.city 07:15 PM 03-23-2020
The problem is we’re about to do flu season condensed into a month

That would overwhelm the hospitals if it was just the flu
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Marcellus 07:16 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Do you understand what these percentages mean Marcellus-understandable figures?

Giroir noted that "the typical mortality rate for seasonal flu is about 0.1 percent or 0.15 percent." By contrast, "the best estimates now for the overall mortality rate for COVID-19 is somewhere between 0.1 percent and 1 percent
Yes, I can read, it appears you struggle.
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Donger 07:17 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Its not apples to oranges when comparing flu pandemics in this country so just stop that BS outright. You are the one who decided to start talking CoV-1.

You dont get to pick your own qualifiers like you try to do in every argument.
That's the whole point, you knob. THIS IS NOT INFLUENZA. IT IS A NOVEL CORONAVIRUS.

You've been given the numbers. You just ignore them because you are clinging to what some idiot told you and you believed him.
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Marcellus 07:18 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
The problem is we’re about to do flu season condensed into a month

That would overwhelm the hospitals if it was just the flu
I think a good way of looking at the concern is it seems if you are one of the small percentage who gets hit hard by this it apparently takes a long hospital stay to recover.

Its not necessarily the number of patience but the number of days thats an issue. 10 people staying 2 days isn't as bad as 5 people staying 21.
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