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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Marcellus 08:34 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I'm just trying to figure out what you're trying to get at with the H1N1 stuff.
Does this stat alone not make you wonder what the hell is going on right now?

Originally Posted by :
Eighty-seven percent of deaths occurred in those under 65 years of age with children and working adults having risks of hospitalization and death 4 to 7 times and 8 to 12 times greater, respectively, than estimates of impact due to seasonal influenza covering the years 1976-2001.

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O.city 08:36 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Does this stat alone not make you wonder what the hell is going on right now?
Sure, that happened over a year.

This is gonna happen over a 4-6 week period.

Thats different right?
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Marcellus 08:43 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Sure, that happened over a year.

This is gonna happen over a 4-6 week period.

Thats different right?
You think 12,000 people are going to die in4-6 weeks? We are already 3 months into this at 345.

H1N1 was killing younger working age people and kids.
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SupDock 08:44 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Sure, that happened over a year.

This is gonna happen over a 4-6 week period.

Thats different right?
I also saw a translated interview from a government official in Italy that suspected their deaths were 4x higher than reported due to people untested and dying.
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stumppy 08:44 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I can't find a month to month breakdown I did find the 12 month summary.

I think the bolded part especially the last couple sentences are pretty eye opening.

Yea, that's exactly the same, kinda,....not really....well, not at all.
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Donger 08:45 AM 03-22-2020
I realize it's almost certainly an outlier, but hey, it looks like we had fewer new cases yesterday. The first time that's happened, I think:

March 17 = 1,748 new daily cases
March 18 = 2,848 new daily cases
March 19 = 4,530 new daily cases
March 20 = 5,594 new daily cases
March 21 = 4,824 new daily cases
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Marcellus 08:46 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by stumppy:
Yea, that's exactly the same, kinda,....not really....well, not at all.
Its actually worse so yea you are correct.
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Marcellus 08:46 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by SupDock:
I also saw a translated interview from a government official in Italy that suspected their deaths were 4x higher than reported due to people untested and dying.
So why the hell is Italy having such a larger issue than any other country?
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wazu 08:47 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I realize it's almost certainly an outlier, but hey, it looks like we had fewer new cases yesterday. The first time that's happened, I think:

March 17 = 1,748 new daily cases
March 18 = 2,848 new daily cases
March 19 = 4,530 new daily cases
March 20 = 5,594 new daily cases
March 21 = 4,824 new daily cases
I'm wondering how much weekend matters on results being reported.
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Mr_Tomahawk 08:51 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I realize it's almost certainly an outlier, but hey, it looks like we had fewer new cases yesterday. The first time that's happened, I think:

March 17 = 1,748 new daily cases
March 18 = 2,848 new daily cases
March 19 = 4,530 new daily cases
March 20 = 5,594 new daily cases
March 21 = 4,824 new daily cases

I don’t know what to take from this. Cautiously optimistic the curve may be flattening?

We have heard over and over how the numbers will spike with more testing available....but then we see a drop in new cases...?
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stumppy 08:52 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
So why the hell is Italy having such a larger issue than any other country?
Because they were too slow to enact the things we are doing.
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wazu 08:53 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I realize it's almost certainly an outlier, but hey, it looks like we had fewer new cases yesterday. The first time that's happened, I think:

March 17 = 1,748 new daily cases
March 18 = 2,848 new daily cases
March 19 = 4,530 new daily cases
March 20 = 5,594 new daily cases
March 21 = 4,824 new daily cases
To compare with a lagging indicator....

March 17 = 23 new daily deaths
March 18 = 41 new daily deaths
March 19 = 57 new daily deaths
March 20 = 49 new daily deaths
March 21 = 46 new daily deaths
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Donger 08:54 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk:
I don’t know what to take from this. Cautiously optimistic the curve may be flattening?

We have heard over and over how the numbers will spike with more testing available....but then we see a drop in new cases...?
Like I said, it's almost certainly an outlier, but...
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Marcellus 08:54 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by stumppy:
Because they were too slow to enact the things we are doing.
That doesn't explain it all, no way no how.
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Mr_Tomahawk 08:55 AM 03-22-2020
Originally Posted by wazu:
To compare with a lagging indicator....

March 17 = 23 new daily deaths
March 18 = 41 new daily deaths
March 19 = 57 new daily deaths
March 20 = 49 new daily deaths
March 21 = 46 new daily deaths

Wut?
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