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Nzoner's Game Room>2019 Free agency Thread
O.city 03:24 PM 02-05-2019
We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.

If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.

https://overthecap.com/
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Chris Meck 10:13 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
See my previous post. I absolutely agree with you on Ford, and that's why I indict the coaches. Ford actually wasn't developed at all in 5 years. He just happened to have an innate ability that allowed him to overcome that.

KPass has a lot of work to do to even contribute, let alone excel. I'm not sure why you'd compare him to Strahan - he's considerably larger than Strahan.
so he is. I always thought Strahan was bigger; but wiki says 6'5" 255. That seems much smaller than I remember.

Anyway, Kpass's combine drills would indicate that he moves particularly well for a man of his size, so I'm still hopeful that Daly can tap the talent.
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htismaqe 10:18 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
so he is. I always thought Strahan was bigger; but wiki says 6'5" 255. That seems much smaller than I remember.

Anyway, Kpass's combine drills would indicate that he moves particularly well for a man of his size, so I'm still hopeful that Daly can tap the talent.
I'm hopeful too but they're running out of time. Next year is his 4th. It's very disappointing. He was a 2nd round pick.
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Chris Meck 10:20 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I'm hopeful too but they're running out of time. Next year is his 4th. It's very disappointing. He was a 2nd round pick.
Next year is his 3rd year. Drafted in 2017.
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htismaqe 10:35 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Next year is his 3rd year. Drafted in 2017.
This year is his 3rd. This is the 2019 season.
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Chris Meck 10:38 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
This year is his 3rd. This is the 2019 season.
ok. But this year hasn't....never mind.
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mcaj22 10:39 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
This year is his 3rd. This is the 2019 season.
this is why I hate project picks in the 2nd. Terrible value for a high pick. Basically the first two years of the contract are an entire waste. If he shows anything this year its a 2nd round pick on a two year deal.
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Chris Meck 10:41 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
this is why I hate project picks in the 2nd. Terrible value for a high pick. Basically the first two years of the contract are an entire waste. If he shows anything this year its a 2nd round pick on a two year deal.
agreed.

I think rounds 4-7 are for 'projects' at skill positions, offensive linemen other than left tackles, and depth/special teamers.

Your first 3 rounds should be geared towards quality starters.
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Buckweath 11:14 AM 03-21-2019
Just in case you guys didn't know, Kpassagnon was widely talked to be a 2nd-3rd round pick leading up to the 2017 draft.

And no one will be criticizing the pick if he becomes a great player.

You just have to be patient sometimes.
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O.city 11:16 AM 03-21-2019
You can't be patient for these guys to show something or develop in that long of a time frame, because of the contract situation.
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Chris Meck 11:19 AM 03-21-2019
both are true.

The wisdom of the pick is now irrelevant; it's history.

I do think it's possible he can be a good player, and with Daly as DL coach, it's about as good a chance as he'll get.
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htismaqe 11:27 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by Buckweath:
Just in case you guys didn't know, Kpassagnon was widely talked to be a 2nd-3rd round pick leading up to the 2017 draft.

And no one will be criticizing the pick if he becomes a great player.

You just have to be patient sometimes.
So was Junior Siavii leading up to that draft. Some guys get overdrafted based on measurables even though they aren't really football players. Just saying...
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RunKC 11:34 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by Buckweath:
Just in case you guys didn't know, Kpassagnon was widely talked to be a 2nd-3rd round pick leading up to the 2017 draft.

And no one will be criticizing the pick if he becomes a great player.

You just have to be patient sometimes.
That’s not how we should operate. You can afford to be patient for 2 types of draft picks:

1. QB’s
2. Mid rd picks

You can’t take projects in the first 2 rds of the draft. You only get 4 years with these guys before they get paid.
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Chris Meck 11:35 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
So was Junior Siavii leading up to that draft. Some guys get overdrafted based on measurables even though they aren't really football players. Just saying...
yeah, and you don't just give up two years in.

Is Kpass going to be awesome? probably not.
Is there still a good chance he's going to be a solid contributor? Yeah. He's finally going to be in his true position, with a good position coach, in a scheme that should play to his abilities.

I like the chances. I'm not banking on him, but I like the chances.
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Buckweath 11:48 AM 03-21-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
That’s not how we should operate. You can afford to be patient for 2 types of draft picks:

1. QB’s
2. Mid rd picks

You can’t take projects in the first 2 rds of the draft. You only get 4 years with these guys before they get paid.
Even an even bigger project like LDT was contributing some in his 2nd year. For sure, you want any 2nd round pick to be contributing in his second year at least.

In the case of Kpassagnon though, there were star players playing in front of him but mostly, it is possible he was outcast in the 3-4 scheme. We will have a better idea this year. It would be different if he had been playing in a 4-3 all along. Just like Veach might have miscalculated the fit of Hitchens in a 3-4, Dorsey might have miscalculated the fit of Kpassagnon in a 3-4.

All in all though, it has been years the Chiefs haven't had a bust with their early picks. They actually used to have tons of them. Sooner or later it will happen again unfortunately.
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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12:00 PM 03-21-2019

FA CB Darqueze Dennard has the #Bengals, #Chiefs and one other team still in the mix. Cincy has been engaged throughout. Sounds like today could be decision day. https://t.co/LgcZGgfLa0

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 21, 2019

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