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Nzoner's Game Room>Deshaun Watson requests trade
Trent Green GOAT 09:06 AM 01-28-2021
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FAX 03:22 PM 02-21-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
That would be a fun question. Say you keep the draft order for this coming draft and every QB is available to be drafted at their current contract as if they were the team that had signed the contract.

You can take a QB already in the league or you can draft one that has entered the draft.

So the Jags take Mahomes at his current contract with full liability for the remainder of his signing bonus etc as if they had been the team that had originally signed that contract in the first place not KC. So essentially they trade positions with KC.

Then what happens?
I think I know this one.

What happens then is that Brittney is carrying Carson Wentz' child.

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RunKC 03:00 PM 02-25-2021
He’s done with you McNair

Per sources, Texans QB Deshaun Watson met with new Texans head coach David Culley last Friday. In that meeting Watson reiterated that he wants to be traded and told Culley he has no intention of playing for the Texans again. No change from Watson's end. He remains dug in.

— Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) February 25, 2021

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Bowser 03:11 PM 02-25-2021
We broke the back of that organization on our 51-7 run in two and a half quarters after being down 24 in a playoff game.
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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03:12 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by Bowser:
We broke the back of that organization on our 51-7 run in two and a half quarters after being down 24 in a playoff game.
To be fair that was BOB
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penguinz 03:16 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He’s done with you McNair

If true the Texans should just keep him and let him rot at home on his couch. Watson signed his contract knowing the team is a shitshow.
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ToxSocks 03:18 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
To be fair that was BOB
No, it was the Chiefs.
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htismaqe 03:19 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
To be fair that was BOB
No, it was the Chiefs.

That loss is what led him to thinking he need to trade Hopkins for "more speed all over the field".
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duncan_idaho 03:38 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
If true the Texans should just keep him and let him rot at home on his couch. Watson signed his contract knowing the team is a shitshow.

That hard-line stance sounds good... but In that case he still eats up cap space. If he “retires” ... they’re still on the hook for the signing bonus against their cap (except accelerated) and I believe his contract picks right back up if he un-retires.

If they cut him, they take the cap hit and he is free to do what he wants.

They have some power, but it’s nuanced. If he refuses to play or says he’s retiring, they can fine him or come after him for signing bonus return/relief... but that’s a long painful process.
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penguinz 03:41 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
That hard-line stance sounds good... but In that case he still eats up cap space. If he “retires” ... they’re still on the hook for the signing bonus against their cap (except accelerated) and I believe his contract picks right back up if he un-retires.

If they cut him, they take the cap hit and he is free to do what he wants.

They have some power, but it’s nuanced. If he refuses to play or says he’s retiring, they can fine him or come after him for signing bonus return/relief... but that’s a long painful process.
It would be totally worth their time to do so. Would be different if all this happened before he signed.

He signed knowing that his best receiver was traded away and that the coach was a lame duck. He also knew the team was being run by people with the brain of a gnat.
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htismaqe 03:48 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
It would be totally worth their time to do so. Would be different if all this happened before he signed.

He signed knowing that his best receiver was traded away and that the coach was a lame duck. He also knew the team was being run by people with the brain of a gnat.
Yep. He took the money and now he wants to run.
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KCJake 03:56 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
If true the Texans should just keep him and let him rot at home on his couch. Watson signed his contract knowing the team is a shitshow.
This is exactly how I feel. Now there's reports Russell Wilson wants traded. This is turning into the NBA
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duncan_idaho 04:11 PM 02-25-2021
It’s all well and good to say the Texans should stick to their guns and just hold onto him. But them doing it is painful.

If he “retires” they have to account for that huge signing bonus they owe him.

It effectively hits their cap like cutting him. If he were to file retirement paperwork before June 1, it processes like a pre-June 1 cut.

They would take a $67M cap hit in that case.

If he doesn’t retire and they just hold him, he eats up their cap as follows:
21: $16M
22: 40.4
23: 42.4
24: 37.4
25: 32

There are ways they can “win” the battle with Watson... but they all make it pretty certain to lose the war (winning football games).
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Deberg_1990 04:22 PM 02-25-2021
So if he retires, how long does he have to sit out before he could join another team? A year? Two years?
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chiefzilla1501 04:23 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by penguinz:
If true the Texans should just keep him and let him rot at home on his couch. Watson signed his contract knowing the team is a shitshow.
I don't think he or anyone understood back then how much power and psychosis would come with an Easterby regime. It seemed dysfunctional but has turned into a shit show. I'd imagine a lot of players were swindled by Pioli early on too.

The problem isn't that Easterby is in charge. Even jj watt, Mr. Texan, suggested he'd be more than happy with the right GM choice. The problem is the owner had a blatantly obvious out that would make his star players, the fans, and everybody else happy and the dumbass owner chose not to do it. I don't think anyone could have predicted that their owner would be this drawn into the cult.
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Sassy Squatch 04:23 PM 02-25-2021
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990:
So if he retires, how long does he have to sit out before he could join another team? A year? Two years?
Never. Texans hold his rights.
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