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BWillie 08:46 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
The NFL can't do a bubble. 7 months long and there isn't a spot in America big enough.

Maybe if they broke it up into small bubbles, but as Terez speculated on his pod, the NFL thought it would cost them a billion dollars plus to do the bubble. They can't do that.
Logistically they could easily do a bubble. Now would players want to make that sacrifice to make millions of dollars? That is the question. I doubt they would want to. The NBA hasn't had to face that hurdle yet because their restart is just a few weeks long and then the playoffs.

The advantage of having a bubble in the NFL is you have a larger revenue source with more weeks & months to lower that fixed cost.

The disadvantage of the bubble in the NBA is you have a smaller revenue source (not by a ton though) with much less time to attribute that fixed cost.

Players families and friends could even enter the bubble and come and go when they please as long as they adhere to the quarantine and pass x amt of tests first. It isn't like you COULDN'T see your family the entire duration but it does make it much more difficult.
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O.city 08:48 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Logistically they could easily do a bubble. Now would players want to make that sacrifice to make millions of dollars? That is the question. I doubt they would want to. The NBA hasn't had to face that hurdle yet because their restart is just a few weeks long and then the playoffs.

The advantage of having a bubble in the NFL is you have a larger revenue source with more weeks & months to lower that fixed cost.

The disadvantage of the bubble in the NBA is you have a smaller revenue source (not by a ton though) with much less time to attribute that fixed cost.

Players families and friends could even enter the bubble and come and go when they please as long as they adhere to the quarantine and pass x amt of tests first. It isn't like you COULDN'T see your family the entire duration but it does make it much more difficult.
Terez says it's not logistically possible on his recent podcast as well as not being financially possible.

So...
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BWillie 08:54 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Terez says it's not logistically possible on his recent podcast as well as not being financially possible.

So...
Even if it costs 1 billion as you say (which I highly doubt) but lets say it does.

Not having a season costs you about 15-18 billion as that is the projected revenue of the NFL in a regular 2020 year.

Allowing yourself to have a season while spending 1 billion dollars is still clearly the answer. Even without fans, the TV deals the NFL makes is 12 billion ALONE. Along with other revenue streams it is a no-brainer.

Saying you can't do it, is nonsense. You could easily have a 50k city in a bubble should you want to. The only wildcard is if the players and NFLPA would even consider it. People really care about their family I guess. Personally, I'd look for any excuse to get away from seeing my family everyday if I could. But I acknowledge I am a piece of shit.
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O.city 08:59 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Even if it costs 1 billion as you say (which I highly doubt) but lets say it does.

Not having a season costs you about 15-18 billion as that is the projected revenue of the NFL in a regular 2020 year.

Allowing yourself to have a season while spending 1 billion dollars is still clearly the answer. Even without fans, the TV deals the NFL makes is 12 billion ALONE. Along with other revenue streams it is a no-brainer.

Saying you can't do it, is nonsense. You could easily have a 50k city in a bubble should you want to. The only wildcard is if the players and NFLPA would even consider it. People really care about their family I guess. Personally, I'd look for any excuse to get away from seeing my family everyday if I could. But I acknowledge I am a piece of shit.
I dont' even think it's the cost, it's the massive amount of people it would take.

You'd have to have all the TV crews do it. All the officials who have regular jobs as well do it. Food prep, training crews. It's just a massive overhaul for 7 months.

Then you have to actually have the place to do it. There's not a place I know of that could handle that.
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BigRedChief 09:00 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Even if it costs 1 billion as you say (which I highly doubt) but lets say it does.

Not having a season costs you about 15-18 billion as that is the projected revenue of the NFL in a regular 2020 year.

Allowing yourself to have a season while spending 1 billion dollars is still clearly the answer. Even without fans, the TV deals the NFL makes is 12 billion ALONE. Along with other revenue streams it is a no-brainer.

Saying you can't do it, is nonsense. You could easily have a 50k city in a bubble should you want to. The only wildcard is if the players and NFLPA would even consider it. People really care about their family I guess. Personally, I'd look for any excuse to get away from seeing my family everyday if I could. But I acknowledge I am a piece of shit.
A billion more in additional costs over no season seems to be money well spent.
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Hammock Parties 08:44 AM 08-06-2020
I can't believe the homering up about this.

Guard might be the worst position on the team BEFORE this and it just got awful.

I'll remind you all that the Donks signed Jurrell Casey a few months ago.
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O.city 08:47 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I can't believe the homering up about this.

Guard might be the worst position on the team BEFORE this and it just got awful.

I'll remind you all that the Donks signed Jurrell Casey a few months ago.
If it was that bad before, are the players replacing them that much worse?
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Hammock Parties 08:51 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
If it was that bad before, are the players replacing them that much worse?
These same posts were probably made during the Pioli era when Nsuckwe, Alleman and Goff were manning the interior.
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O.city 08:52 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
These same posts were probably made during the Pioli era when Nsuckwe, Alleman and Goff were manning the interior.
And they weren't that much worse than what they were replacing then.
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BigRedChief 08:53 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
These same posts were probably made during the Pioli era when Nsuckwe, Alleman and Goff were manning the interior.
Geezz how bad were we? :-)
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BigRedChief 08:47 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I can't believe the homering up about this.

Guard might be the worst position on the team BEFORE this and it just got awful.

I'll remind you all that the Donks signed Jurrell Casey a few months ago.
There isnt any guards out there on the open market is there? I'd think not but we are hurting pretty bad at guard. Maybe the bottom of the barrell looks good now.
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Dante84 08:45 AM 08-06-2020
Our 3 Opt Outs:
- LDT: Foregoing his salary and delaying his FA payday by a year to save lives
- Damien Williams: Conceding his starting spot after being a Super Bowl hero, and choosing to spend time with his mother, who has stage 4 cancer.
- Niang: Bypassing his rookie year for family reasons


I don't think any of our guys should catch any hell for their decisions.
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Direckshun 08:46 AM 08-06-2020
This tweaks our 2020 but it really fucks up our 2021.

We have negative cap space for 2021. We need to create space. The most likely way we do that is by extending a bunch of the big ticket players, and if Niang had looked good in 2020, we have the ability to cut Fisher and start Niang in 2021.

This makes that virtually impossible. So we’re going to have to look elsewhere for cuts and it’s going to be very dicey. Veach will have to square a circle.
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Mecca 08:58 AM 08-06-2020

Crazy that me choosing my family’s wellbeing over a game comes with so called fans attacking and questioning me and saying I’m selfish. No you guys are selfish for thinking that football is bigger than life. Oh by the way my girl’s grandfather passed from COVID. U understand now?

— Tre'Davious White (@TakeAwayTre_) August 6, 2020


And he gives a message a lot of posters here should take to heart.
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Iowanian 09:04 AM 08-06-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:


And he gives a message a lot of posters here should take to heart.

It would be understandable if it were killing 23 year old professional athletes. It's not.

The equipment guy making $40k is going to work...

There isn't a mandate to play sports in college or the pros. Give up your scholarship or your job if you want to.
Fans that are going to work, and have been going to work the entire time have the right to think you're a bit of a tart if you opt out of going to work.
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