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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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BWillie 03:48 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Kansas City is under house arrest now...

Kansas City metro under stay-at-home order effective Tuesday as coronavirus spreads

Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/coro...#storylink=cpy
That's unfortunate. I was hoping to go golfing. Golfing is social distancing. You can do it on your own even. Nobody that works at a golf course or plays golf at the golf course ever has to get within 6 feet of each other.
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Discuss Thrower 03:49 PM 03-21-2020
30 days and then another 30 days and then another 30 days and then..
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notorious 03:51 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
That's unfortunate. I was hoping to go golfing. Golfing is social distancing. You can do it on your own even. Nobody that works at a golf course or plays golf at the golf course ever has to get within 6 feet of each other.
We did Wednesday at our local course. They took the flags, other than that it was good to go.
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BWillie 03:51 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
admittedly it was a typo, it is .4%

56 total deaths / 11,645 cases
We cannot use active cases to discern anything about the mortality rate one way or another. Only recovered vs fatalities. It's also true those numbers may not include people who can't get tested right now.

What we need to do is test as many as we can, even asymptomatic and those who have mild symptoms. An easier way to do this may be to test a small city 10,000 or so near a hotspot like NYC and a spot in a more moderately infected area to get an idea of the population. Test every single person in that said city and we could get this shit figured out.
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SupDock 03:56 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
We cannot use active cases to discern anything about the mortality rate one way or another. Only recovered vs fatalities. It's also true those numbers may not include people who can't get tested right now.

What we need to do is test as many as we can, even asymptomatic and those who have mild symptoms. An easier way to do this may be to test a small city 10,000 or so near a hotspot like NYC and a spot in a more moderately infected area to get an idea of the population. Test every single person in that said city and we could get this shit figured out.
Sure, but we can't do that.

We don't have tests, healthcare workers don't have adequate PPE
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petegz28 03:57 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
We cannot use active cases to discern anything about the mortality rate one way or another. Only recovered vs fatalities. It's also true those numbers may not include people who can't get tested right now.

What we need to do is test as many as we can, even asymptomatic and those who have mild symptoms. An easier way to do this may be to test a small city 10,000 or so near a hotspot like NYC and a spot in a more moderately infected area to get an idea of the population. Test every single person in that said city and we could get this shit figured out.
Whatever you say....
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RedRaider56 04:01 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by displacedinMN:
Same dumb ****s that eat out of an ice cream container and puts in back into the grocery freezer. Same dumb ****s that don't know they should not be at the beach.
same dumb asses that are drinking beer from other kid's butt cracks on spring break.
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displacedinMN 04:04 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by RedRaider56:
same dumb asses that are drinking beer from other kid's butt cracks on spring break.
Is that a thing???? Gross.
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Monticore 04:10 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by displacedinMN:
Is that a thing???? Gross.
Had an ER friend say some people were stealing catheters and filling each other bladders with wine then drinking straight from the bottle . Lot of weird stuff out there.
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George Liquor 04:25 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
That's unfortunate. I was hoping to go golfing. Golfing is social distancing. You can do it on your own even. Nobody that works at a golf course or plays golf at the golf course ever has to get within 6 feet of each other.
Just go by yourself, nobody will be there. Used to play that shitty 9 hole alvamar course for free all the time in the winter back in the day.
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BigRedChief 04:33 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
This is true.

The other 20% and a finite supply of doctors/ventilators is the problem.

If NYC gets its doubling down to once every 4 days then they’ll need 3,000 ventilators from somewhere to save around 2500 people. If it doubles every other day, the way the US numbers are currently going, then they could end up needing to find 15,000 more ventilators.

Just in NYC.
we only have 12k ventilators in reserve. Do the math.

We could possibly enter Italy territory within a week or two. Doctors are going to be deciding who does and who doesn’t get a ventilator. Who lives and who dies. The richest country that has ever existed since humanity exited the caves. Hopefully this social distancing will bend the curve sooner rather than later. I’m hopeful it’s going to make a difference. We just need a break or two to go our way.
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TLO 04:33 PM 03-21-2020
Maybe I'm misinformed but these "shelter in place" or "stay home" orders just seem like more strongly worded declarations of what people were already supposed to be doing?
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AustinChief 04:34 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
We cannot use active cases to discern anything about the mortality rate one way or another. Only recovered vs fatalities. It's also true those numbers may not include people who can't get tested right now.

What we need to do is test as many as we can, even asymptomatic and those who have mild symptoms. An easier way to do this may be to test a small city 10,000 or so near a hotspot like NYC and a spot in a more moderately infected area to get an idea of the population. Test every single person in that said city and we could get this shit figured out.
That would be great but most (not me actually) would consider this a luxury. It is most likely that we won't have anything close to accurate figures for over a year on this.

People need to realize that we have absolutely ZERO clue at this time how many people are infected and how many have already recovered. The most likely scenario is that we have 5-10x as many infected(or previously infected and already recovered) as the numbers currently show.
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phisherman 04:35 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Maybe I'm misinformed but these "shelter in place" or "stay home" orders just seem like more strongly worded declarations of what people were already supposed to be doing?
Pretty much. Just stay home, people. It's not that hard.
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TLO 04:35 PM 03-21-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
we only have 12k ventilators in reserve. Do the math.

We could enter Italy territory within a week or two. Doctors are going to be deciding who does and who doesn’t get a ventilator. Who lives and who dies. The richest country that has ever existed since humanity exited the caves. Hopefully this social distancing will bend the curve sooner than later.
I haven't heard a lot about the "days behind Italy" talk much in the past few days.

Also - isn't the military giving us a bunch of ventilators to use?
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