Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
I agree, what it makes me wonder is if Dorsey was made to understand that this was the situation coming in as well. If so I am amazed he took the job and then did so well at it.
If he was apprised that was how it was going to be he had to be looking to make a name for himself hoping to either prove his value and worth to KC. Making the Chiefs respectable again has to be a huge bonus on his resume.
In Dorsey's case it worked. And though it is not entirely out of the realm of possibility that such a scenario could work again, I argue that you will be hard pressed to find another guy with that level of talent identification and nose to the grindstone work ethic.
Do you recall Carl being that kind of guy? Or Peeholi?
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Do you know what's hilarious and SO fucking Chiefsplanet?
If Hunt fired Reid, the guy that's led them to 4 straight winning seasons and the first playoff win in 23 years, there are people here that would be ECSTATIC.
Meanwhile, the guy that signed bad contracts to multiple players and has been widely criticized on CP was fired, now it's all over.
A talented coaching staff means more than a talented roster then. :-)
That same coach that constantly and consistently over his entire career has had severe problems with clock management, timeout usage and play calling and is unwilling to change.
Where as a team could hire a cap contract specialist in order to keep the best talent evaluator that this franchise has had in what seems like a lifetime.
Players can make coaches look like geniuses and coaches can make players look like shit. There has to be a balance. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
In Dorsey's case it worked. And though it is not entirely out of the realm of possibility that such a scenario could work again, I argue that you will be hard pressed to find another guy with that level of talent identification and nose to the grindstone work ethic.
Do you recall Carl being that kind of guy? Or Peeholi?
Nope. Because it is a rare commodity.
Carl's problem was refusal to address the QB position. With a top QB, he'd probably have two or three championships [Reply]
This place was dead on in knowing that Carl and Pioli were cancer had to be cut out.
No one can put Dorsey in the same can as Hot Carl and Pioli.
I totally agree with you, Hunt waited way too long to fire both of them. Dorsey built a solid core of starters out of the draft and had to take some risks on guys like reek and Peters to look better than he might have been but he wasn't trash.
My guess would be the lack of cap management and the lack of being able to sign big time FA's who could make the team better though Dorsey was hamstrung by Reid in the FA market with him breaking the rules to sign Macklin.
I guess it came down to one or the other by the Hunts and they chose to give the HC the nod hoping he can game manage enough wins until they get a chance to see what the rookie QB can do.
If Mahommes pans out then the deal was worth it, if not then the Hunts have to pay Andy and a new HC for a couple years.
It is easier for the locker room to have that continuity by not changing the HC rather than keeping the GM, especially at this point of the year. Really this is a decision the Hunts had to know was coming at the end of the season as there is no way you are firing a HC after Mini-camp and before TC. [Reply]
Originally Posted by cdcox:
Reid, playoff choke artist, zero Super Bowl wins, Chiefs!
And what does Dorsey have? Are we going to give him credit for the Packers Superbowl win when he was director of college scouting? If so then Reid gets credit for when the Packers won and he was an assistant coach.
Or where were you going with this? Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Didn't Dorsey fire a lot of scouting personnel? He couldn't get deals on with them or Maclin. Maybe he's made some bad internal decision we don't know about. [Reply]
