Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by petegz28:
And? We've already seen reports out of states across the entire country, coast-coast.
You have no idea. If your argument is those numbers probably won't hold I will agree.
Otherwise you are just talking out of your ass at this point.
Originally Posted by Donger:
Yes. If you want to believe it more likely that those states have all suddenly stopped seeing growth than that their numbers simply haven't been updated today, knock yourself out.
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Has this been confirmed? If so, is the damage irreparable? I think the lungs are one of the few internal organs that can self-repair.
Yes it has been confirmed by the CDC and the WHO.
And as someone that is stage 3 COPD I have spent countless hours on the internet looking for doctors or stories trying to disprove what multiple Pulmonologists have all told me, which is that the lungs do not repair their tissues that what most people think are the lungs repairing is just the phlegm leaving the lungs from stopping smoking or removing themselves whatever activity that caused the damage. [Reply]
Maybe this has been established and I'm not seeing it. If someone has tested positive and sent home to quarantine, is there a retest process or is up to the patient to instigate a 2nd test? [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I never said it was the flu. Regardless of what you claim, I never said that. In fact I said the opposite. But rant on me all you want.
And I have been saying that the whole time. In fact, I said last week a lot of this was being done to prevent hospitals from being overrun though it would actually lengthen the life of all this shit. Many mocked me for it and I believe you were one of them.
Now here you are repeating what I said over a week ago.
Lies.
You've been downplaying this virus from the very beginning. I don't have time to find your old posts but you have been acting like this whole thing is a joke and no one should worry about it [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Average March temperature in Australia is fairly close to Florida and they have over 1000 cases with an upward trajectory.
The homeland security link I posted this morning indicates there is no reason to believe disease transmission will decrease in the summer. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Yes, we get it, you've repeated yourself often. In fact it's about all you have added. Now kindly go inflate your doll and entertain yourself.
If only I could add value to these discussions like you do pete. I'll keep trying. [Reply]
You've been downplaying this virus from the very beginning. I don't have time to find your old posts but you have been acting like this whole thing is a joke and no one should worry about it
You mean when I said we wouldn't end up like Italy with a 8.5% death rate? Yeah, I stand by those sorts of comments. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Me:
It's much more likely that the numbers haven't been updated yet.
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Based on what, Donger? This site has been one of the most accurate and up to date sites out there. Those numbers were as of 15:26 GMT.
This site has been far ahead of any media reports I have seen as well.
So, when you posted this lack of growth initially, did you post it under the likelihood that growth had magically stopped? If not, why did you post it? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Donger:
So, when you posted this lack of growth initially, did you post it under the likelihood that growth had magically stopped? If not, why did you post it?
I don't know, Donger, perhaps in the hope that maybe the growth of new cases might slow some? For all you know they are reporting and maybe there haven't been any new cases as of yet today? Maybe by the end of the day the new cases then up reporting are far fewer that yesterday?
Then again, you can just be your douche self. [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I don't know, Donger, perhaps in the hope that maybe the growth of new cases might slow some? For all you know they are reporting and maybe there haven't been any new cases as of yet today? Maybe by the end of the day the new cases then up reporting are far fewer that yesterday?
Then again, you can just be your douche self.
Like I said, it's silly to think that those states magically suddenly have zero new cases. Which is why I said that it's much more likely that they simply haven't been updated. You chose to challenge me on that. [Reply]
