Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Masks don't do jack shit. Stop listening to the ****ing media.
Actually, the media is the ones who are blatantly lying. Masks do HELP period. Is it fail proof? No. But it can greatly reduce your exposure and chance of getting it especially if you use a N95 mask. [Reply]
All I know is, where is Andy Reid? Is there a bunker we can put him in until next football season or until we can get a vaccine? He's 61, fat, and likes cheeseburgers. He's going to be a goner if he gets it.
Originally Posted by :
I basically expect to get coronavirus if it becomes as widespread as feared, because of how closely I work, as a bartender, with the public and their germs.
Additionally, I can't wash my hands as often as suggested without serious consequences. Like many bartenders, I suffer from paronychia (bar rot), a skin condition of the cuticles and other areas of the fingers caused by working long hours with wet hands exposed to citrus, cleaning agents, and bacteria.
When it's acting up, every hand-wash inflames it, so if I don't limit my hand-washing to only when necessary, the skin on my hands thins, peels, and bleeds, leaving me susceptible to much worse than coronavirus.
Nor can I choose to work less. Think twice before telling people not to work if they are sick; many of us don't have that luxury. I can afford to lose maybe two days of work a month - otherwise, I am going to fall behind, and although I have some exciting prospects this year, at the moment I have no additional income or means of support.
Remember: the working-class works when we are sick not because we want to, but because we have to.
All that I am changing in my routine is what I am able to: I am no longer frequenting my favorite breakfast spot, because most of the clientele is elderly and I don't want to endanger them if I become a carrier.
That's how coronavirus is affecting my life.
From a bartender on Facebook. Might want to avoid bars for a while. [Reply]
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
80% of the people in my writing class are touching their face at any given time.
Way, way BITD, one of the college drinking games we used to play was you had to drink if you touched your face. It really made it apparent that people touch their face a lot. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin:
Heh, the flu is for pussies!
You must get it a lot then running from the local neighborhood poodle.
In all seriousness this thing has been so overblown it’s ridiculous. Just came back from bringing my kid to jiu-jitsu and judo. Everyone is joking about it. Log in here and it’s the zombie apocalypse just like at Costco. I will make a killing in the markets from this massive media overhype. I guess they are good for something. This is the Media’s new Y2K.
Time for mandatory vaccinations to save us all from extinction . LMFAO [Reply]
Man identified as first coronavirus case in Colorado
The man who was visiting Summit County had known exposure through close contact with the new virus outside of Colorado, state health officials said in news release Thursday afternoon.
Polis said the man — who was later identified as a resident of California by Summit County officials — had traveled to Italy in mid-February with someone who had tested positive for COVID-19. Summit County officials said in a news conference late Thursday night the man was not aware of his companion's positive status "until many days into his visit here in Summit County." [Reply]
Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY:
You must get it a lot then running from the local neighborhood poodle.
In all seriousness this thing has been so overblown it’s ridiculous. Just came back from bringing my kid to jiu-jitsu and judo. Everyone is joking about it. Log in here and it’s the zombie apocalypse just like at Costco. I will make a killing in the markets from this massive media overhype. I guess they are good for something. This is the Media’s new Y2K.
Time for mandatory vaccinations to save us all from extinction . LMFAO
The media will do what it always does.
But, we have no idea how far and wide this has spread because the government cant get testing kits out to the public to confirm the coronavirus. Promised 1 million test kits by the end of the week. So far as of Friday morning, 75K.
If you dont even know how far and wide it has spread, you have no chance to contain the virus. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin:
News here reporting 2 possible cases in PA. Using the words "presumed" positive. Have them both on house quaratine.
Presumed positive means that they have tested positive from a test administered by a local hospital or doctor, but have not been officially tested by the CDC yet. Pretty much guaranteed that they are positive. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
The media will do what it always does.
But, we have no idea how far and wide this has spread because the government cant get testing kits out to the public to confirm the coronavirus. Promised 1 million test kits by the end of the week. So far as of Friday morning, 75K.
If you dont even know how far and wide it has spread, you have no chance to contain the virus.
It’s the same old situation promoted by the media every few years. Trash the markets. People will lose a ton of the retirement they saved as they will get out of the market and go to treasuries as we are seeing now. Ultra-rich who are in cash will swoop in and invest and make a killing. Those who proclaimed to protect the people the loudest as usual are traitors to the people but those people will believe because that’s how we are being programmed 24/7. When it’s all said and done more people than ever will believe the media and in big government.
On a good note the gym looks empty today. Awesome. God only knows what chance I have if making it out of there alive. [Reply]
