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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the Cleveland Browns (Divisional Round)
TLO 07:49 PM 01-10-2021
A little surprised, but not THAT surprised.
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htismaqe 12:13 PM 01-13-2021
Cleveland didn't upset Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh was a mirage most of the year. Cleveland just opened the curtains.
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Megatron96 12:14 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by joethomas:
I'm not sure if we should expect one of those games like Carolina tried, where they do all kinds of crazy things to try to tilt the odds in their favor, to randomize the game because they don't like their chances. It seems like this has the same effect as trying to milk the clock and control the ball, you end up with one of these Marty type games where even if it goes well, a late mistake will kill you.

The way to beat a good team without a glaring weakness like the Chiefs is that you have to stand toe to toe and play better in all phases for 60 minutes. Trickery and gimmicks aren't going to work. Relying on them shows you don't think you can beat them for 60 minutes. The Browns shouldn't fall into that trap where they come out with a mindset that they are already behind when the coin is flipped.
They're going to try everything. We should expect the Browns to go for it on 4th down and anything less than 5 yds, once they get past the 50. I would expect a fake punt on every attempt. We're going to see a healthy percentage of tricks plays.

It's going to be the football version of guerilla warfare. CLE can't beat the Chiefs in a set-piece battle. They're going to have to surprise us with multiple 'smoke and mirror' plays. And they're pretty much all going to have to be successful.
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htismaqe 12:14 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan:
Allen Robinson UFA this year
Probably can't afford it.
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L.A. Chieffan 12:15 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Probably can't afford it.
True, but can you imagine him lining up opposite Hill and having Mahomes throwing him the rock instead of Trubisky? Id feel sorry for defenses
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htismaqe 12:16 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan:
True, but can you imagine him lining up opposite Hill and having Mahomes throwing him the rock instead of Trubisky? Id feel sorry for defenses
I'm sure Veach can imagine it. He'll probably be tempted. :-)
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Megatron96 12:16 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
What a fucking joke. This clown wants to take cheap shots on Twitter yet can't be bothered to suit up and practice because of a strained calf?!?
Did we get an injury report? I hadn't heard anything except that he didn't appear to be at practice today. No actual reason for why not.

And Sammy didn't take any shot on twaddle. He said the game wasn't over, because it was just the end of the first quarter. If that's taking a shot, then the world has gotten way too soft.
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eastsidedawg 01:16 PM 01-13-2021
the more i see on the game the more this has shootout written all over it .

i didnt know KC's defense was the 32nd in redzone defense. browns are the 4th rated redzone offense scoring tds on 72% of the time.

can we see a 52-48 game ?
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Megatron96 01:24 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by eastsidedawg:
the more i see on the game the more this has shootout written all over it .

i didnt know KC's defense was the 32nd in redzone defense. browns are the 4th rated redzone offense scoring tds on 72% of the time.

can we see a 52-48 game ?
Anything is possible.

But the Chiefs defense would have to play their worst game since 2018. Before Spags was hired, before Clark and Mathieu were signed, etc. So not likely.

Would be fun to watch, though.
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KChiefs1 01:27 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by eastsidedawg:
the more i see on the game the more this has shootout written all over it .

i didnt know KC's defense was the 32nd in redzone defense. browns are the 4th rated redzone offense scoring tds on 72% of the time.

can we see a 52-48 game ?
Browns get in the red zone, just chalk up a TD because the Chiefs are pretty pathetic in that area.
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htismaqe 01:27 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by eastsidedawg:
the more i see on the game the more this has shootout written all over it .

i didnt know KC's defense was the 32nd in redzone defense. browns are the 4th rated redzone offense scoring tds on 72% of the time.

can we see a 52-48 game ?
Here's the thing:

Against playoff-bound teams in the top 16 of red zone percentage, the Chiefs allowed 29, 17, 20, and 24 points. They only gave up 29 points to the Saints, for example. When you break down the Chiefs schedule, and focus in on the good teams, things look much different than their overall averages.

In terms of total DVOA, they beat the #1, #2, #4, and #7 teams in the league, ALL on the road.
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chiefzilla1501 02:26 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by eastsidedawg:
the more i see on the game the more this has shootout written all over it .

i didnt know KC's defense was the 32nd in redzone defense. browns are the 4th rated redzone offense scoring tds on 72% of the time.

can we see a 52-48 game ?
Chiefs defense has been really good in the final stretch of the season. A lot of our stats are tilted to beginning of season when our defense was somewhat struggling. It's also inflated quite a bit because kc hasn't been great at protecting big leagues. I don't think it'll be a shootout. I could see kc getting up early and kc D giving some yards and points as CLE claws from behind.
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htismaqe 02:30 PM 01-13-2021
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
Chiefs defense has been really good in the final stretch of the season. A lot of our stats are tilted to beginning of season when our defense was somewhat struggling. It's also inflated quite a bit because kc hasn't been great at protecting big leagues. I don't think it'll be a shootout. I could see kc getting up early and kc D giving some yards and points as CLE claws from behind.
There's zero chance the Browns score 48 points.

The Chiefs gave up 40 one time and more than 30 only twice after that.
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RunKC 03:02 PM 01-13-2021
Patrick is locked in

Kelce said Mahomes studied all the possible playoff teams and defensive looks over the past couple weeks. Kelce also said when they found out they were facing the Browns on Sunday night, Patrick already had a whole notebook ready to go.

— Dani Welniak (@KCTVDani) January 13, 2021

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Pasta Little Brioni 03:03 PM 01-13-2021
Blow them out
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Megatron96 03:08 PM 01-13-2021
Just heard this on NFL Live: Andy Reid is 26-5 including the playoffs after a bye (12-14 days off).

Absurd.
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