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bdj23 02:12 PM 06-22-2017
Per 610.

The ****?
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KChiefs1 06:54 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
Dorsey is obviously out because of his management of the cap. It was his one downfall.

They had already fired him.


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NJChiefsFan 06:55 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Maybe Ballard wanted to leave?
Even if he was offered the KC job? I get the Luck factor but the cleaner logic says that he left because a GM was here and he was never offered the job.
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petegz28 06:55 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by penbrook:
If this is true and I mean if than Reid has really turned his personnel life around. He used to suck at this stuff. Now he's signing free agents like Parker and Mitchell and even got us our very own QB in Mahomey!!
The way they put it on 610 is, Reid is ready to sell out his own wife for a SB. So if you go with that, if he thought for any reason that Dorsey was prohibiting progress then he would run right over him.
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penbrook 06:56 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by petegz28:
The way they put it on 610 is, Reid is ready to sell out his own wife for a SB. So if you go with that, if he thought for any reason that Dorsey was prohibiting progress then he would run right over him.
Damn Reid giving no fucks. Makes sense on why we took Mahomes than
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petegz28 06:56 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
Even if he was offered the KC job? I get the Luck factor but the cleaner logic says that he left because a GM was here and he was never offered the job.
And at that point in time, Dorsey may not have shown his cards. Dorsey might have thought if he waited for Ballard to leave then tried to threaten Clark with "I still might go to elsewhere" or otherwise wouldn't commit long term thinking it would land him a bigger deal, well, how'd that work out?
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Eleazar 06:57 PM 06-22-2017

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NJChiefsFan 06:57 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by petegz28:
The way they put it on 610 is, Reid is ready to sell out his own wife for a SB. So if you go with that, if he thought for any reason that Dorsey was prohibiting progress then he would run right over him.
So this year we should expect Reid to hire a man to do clock management for him. If Reid is all in on a SB and has an ounce of self-evaluation in him, he will find someone to help him with game management. And he might think about letting someone else call plays.

Whether Reid is capable of admitting these things to himself or others seems doubtful.
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NJChiefsFan 06:59 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by petegz28:
And at that point in time, Dorsey may not have shown his cards. Dorsey might have thought if he waiting for Ballard to leave then tried to threaten Clark with "I still might go to elsewhere" or otherwise wouldn't commit long term thinking it would land him a bigger deal, well, how'd that work out?
IF that's the case then yeah, Dorsey sucks and Clark gambled wrong that Dorsey would stay. However we can't really have it both ways here. If Dorsey was Reid's bitch than Clark should have made room for Ballard and parted with Dorsey. If Ballard was worth letting go for Dorsey, than Dorsey is worth more than 610 is saying.

Can't really say Dorsey isn't good yet we tried keeping him over Ballard.
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penbrook 07:00 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
So this year we should expect Reid to hire a man to do clock management for him. If Reid is all in on a SB and has an ounce of self-evaluation in him, he will find someone to help him with game management. And he might think about letting someone else call plays.

Whether Reid is capable of admitting these things to himself or others seems doubtful.
We actually did pretty good at play calling last year
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DaneMcCloud 07:02 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
King Carl's drafts were average at best, but his free agents leave Dorsey's in the dust.
:-)

You're fucking retarded.

How many GM's draft MULTIPLE Hall of Famers?

You're a legend in your own mind, Geno.
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DaneMcCloud 07:03 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Agreed.
Stupidity, right on cue
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petegz28 07:03 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
IF that's the case then yeah, Dorsey sucks and Clark gambled wrong that Dorsey would stay. However we can't really have it both ways here. If Dorsey was Reid's bitch than Clark should have made room for Ballard and parted with Dorsey. If Ballard was worth letting go for Dorsey, than Dorsey is worth more than 610 is saying.

Can't really say Dorsey isn't good yet we tried keeping him over Ballard.
You're still missing a possible scenario. If Reid said to keep Dorsey then Ballard was going to be allowed to walk. Personally I see it like this...

A) Dorsey was Reid's bitch
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B) Reid was semi-content with Dorsey at the time Ballard left so Clark keeps him
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C) Reid got pissed about the Maclin deal, especially after the JC deal
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D) Dorsey thought he had the team over the barrel with Ballard being gone
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Reid\Clark said, "hit the road, Jack" or John on this case
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DaneMcCloud 07:05 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
It's a different NFL. Carl would be even worse in this era where drafting is even more important. It seems like the spin is that Dorsey was no big deal and Reid is the personnel man anyway seems like hope more than facts.
Derrrick Thomas, Will Shields, Tony Gonzales, Jared Allen.

Which future Hall of Famers have Pioli (in KC) and Dorsey, draft?
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petegz28 07:05 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Stupidity, right on cue
Good day, sunshine!!! And how are you???
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penbrook 07:06 PM 06-22-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Derrrick Thomas, Will Shields, Tony Gonzales, Jared Allen.

Which future Hall of Famers have Pioli (in KC) and Dorsey, draft?
Peters, Hill, Mahomes
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