Vote in this poll if you actually live in Jackson county.
We've all shared our opinions in the other thread. But who gives a shit what somebody in Platte County or Johnson County or Phoenix or NYC thinks. We're all just noise. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Fish:
Guys, Kansas does not exactly have a pile of money laying around with which they could just throw a few billion at the Chiefs without anyone complaining. I think people are seriously underestimating how difficult and complicated it would be to move a team. It takes a great deal more than the owner simply making the decision.
Ugh, actually we do. Should have about $1.7 billion in the rainy day fund come 6/30, end of fiscal year. Try to pay attention. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Woogieman:
It's odd that those who belittle the products and services that billionaires provide, spend 10 hours a day on a message board passionately "debating" those very products. Yes kids, there is a price for the toys that make you happy, and there is no Santa Claus.
That's what I don't get. Only 3 stadiums are privately funded in the NFL. Some of the same people bitching about the Chiefs getting public funding are some of the same people who have used tax abatement when purchasing a home. Also, the Crossroads is developed with a .5 cent sales tax itself and those businesses use public funds and tax breaks.
Originally Posted by KC_Lee:
Having lived in Nashville for 16 years I really don't see the Royals making that move. Atlanta, Cincinnati, and St. Louis would oppose that move.
TN does not use eminent domain as strongly as KS or MO as well. Also, the TN Tits are looking at wanting / needing a new stadium, and Nashville recently built a new stadium for the minor league baseball team so another new stadium may be fiscally unviable.
Finally, there's limited locations that Nashville metro can leverage for a new stadium. The Nashville metro infrastructure is already buckling, a new baseball and potential new football stadiums would break city infrastructure.
Nashville has already grown beyond what it was reasonably designed for. The traffic in that area is a catastrophe. If you put a stadium in 'Nashville' you'd have to put it 30 minutes out of town.
In which case, why bother?
They're not moving to Nashville. As you've noted, the actual residents of Nasvhille already think its grown beyond capacity - they're not looking for more. They won't vote to approve it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Mark has been a little uppity throughout this process. He called out the Royals concrete cancer and was rebuffed rather easily. I think they stay at Arrowhead it might cost more than what was on this vote because the next one likely won't just have some generic AI rendering of bar stools behind the end zone and a 1 mile VIP concrete walk way.
...but why do you think he's suddenly going to go out of the way to stay in the spot he clearly doesn't think is worth it?
I'd personally put Arrowhead's odds of survival at about 10% at this point. If people aren't impressed by what they can do with it, the logical answer is to build something new. And if you're going that far, they'll want a location that can be activated and bring in extra revenue. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
Yeah. I don't know if they figured they had carte blanche to behave like that given the teams recent success, but it's backfired pretty badly.
Chiefs lost nothing yesterday, but they did gain future leverage. It wasn't passing the smell test when the proposals came out, and that should have been an obvious clue. The knew this was failing and used it to their future advantage. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
So was this mainly shot down due to the stadium location for the Royals being the Crossroads district?
Nah.
Something doesn't lose by 16 points on a single issue. There was no 'mainly' shot down here.
This was shot down across the board. It was a bloody massacre because it failed to reach Jackson County voters on basically any level at all. They simply rejected it wholesale.
It was 'mainly shot down' because it was an ill-conceived cash grab and a lazy effort by the people seeking it to leverage goodwill from the SB run(s) to get a blank check. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigBeauford:
Come on bro, they were going to chip in $300 million. No, don't bring up the fact that the Hunt family is worth $24B! You want to take away their silver plated shark tank bar!?!
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Mark has been a little uppity throughout this process. He called out the Royals concrete cancer and was rebuffed rather easily. I think they stay at Arrowhead it might cost more than what was on this vote because the next one likely won't just have some generic AI rendering of bar stools behind the end zone and a 1 mile VIP concrete walk way.
Mark Donovan is a smug asshole. Anyone that has ever met him would tell you the same. [Reply]
