Royals *** Official 2018 Royals Offseason Repository *** - Page 51

Originally Posted by dlphg9:
A bunch of whiney millionaires. I wouldn't sign any of them. How often to big contracts work out?

And the owners who would have to pay them are whiny billionaires (whose margins have grown and who have a bigger piece of the revenue pie than they did since the MLBPA was formed).
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I get the aging argument. But if the owners are gonna go that route, they're gonna need to bring the salary floor up a bunch

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
And the owners who would have to pay them are whiny billionaires (whose margins have grown and who have a bigger piece of the revenue pie than they did since the MLBPA was formed).

Yeah I get that, but there are alot of people working for billionaires who get paid jack shit nothing and you have people that are getting paid 10-15 million a year bitching because they're not getting 20-25 million a year.
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I could care less whether the owners or the players have more of the pie. Class warfare between billionaires and millionaires just doesn't seem worth it - no horse in that race. Just let supply / demand to do its thing. Inflated markets always even out. That's all we're seeing here.

EDIT: Sorry...inflated markets even out EXCEPT for when government involvement - intentionally or not - artificially support an inflated market. I'm looking at you, college tuition.
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Originally Posted by dlphg9:
A bunch of whiney millionaires. I wouldn't sign any of them. How often to big contracts work out?

They've worked out phenomenally well for owners, who've given huge contracts yet seen their franchise values (and revenues) skyrocket alongside.

Remember: no fan ever turned on a TV to watch an owner own a team.
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MLB.com has done the top 10 prospects at RHP, LHP, C, 1B and 2B for 2018.

Nick Pratto is our only prospect to make any of the top 10s so far, and will probably be the only one as I'm not sure we will have anyone on the top 10 for 3B, SS or OF. Came in at #4 for first basemen.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=1b
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Austin Jackson signed a 2 year, $6 million deal with the Giants. He's not really a $15 million player but he had a really good year last year.

Austin Jackson was a two-win player last year. That's worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $15M in value for one season. He got a total of $6M guaranteed for two seasons. The bottoming out of this market is staggering, and what's scary is that this is just the beginning. https://t.co/5VTE4am20v
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 23, 2018

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Likely puts a lid on any Cain signing by the Giants. Seems like he might end up going back to the Brewers - not much noise from any other teams.
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Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan:
Likely puts a lid on any Cain signing by the Giants. Seems like he might end up going back to the Brewers - not much noise from any other teams.

That was my first reaction... what happens to Cain now? Not just in terms of team, but how much money is he going to get? He's older than Jackson.

The Brewers already have an issue with too many outfielders. They seem to be willing to make aggressive moves, but if they did sign an OF they'd be looking to trade someone like Domingo Santana, who was pretty good last year.
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So things cooled down with Cain to the Rangers?

I guess things have always been ice cold with every free agent.
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Remember: no fan ever turned on a TV to watch an owner own a team.

But a lot of fans will watch the jersey no matter who is wearing it.
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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief:
So things cooled down with Cain to the Rangers?

I guess things have always been ice cold with every free agent.

Rangers linger. I don't know how much they are driving anyone's market, though.
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Originally Posted by sedated:
But a lot of fans will watch the jersey no matter who is wearing it.

Provably false. That's what NFL owners thought in 1987 when they trotted out the scabs for 3 games. Attendance immediately plunged and ratings tanked.

Bears at Philly: 4,000
Bucs at Lions: 4,900
Chiefs at Raiders: 9,000

Here are more examples:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment...s_from_week_4/
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Originally Posted by MrGiggity:
MLB.com has done the top 10 prospects at RHP, LHP, C, 1B and 2B for 2018.

Nick Pratto is our only prospect to make any of the top 10s so far, and will probably be the only one as I'm not sure we will have anyone on the top 10 for 3B, SS or OF. Came in at #4 for first basemen.

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=1b

No top 100 guy.
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
No top 100 guy.

Not surprising. Pratto didn't do enough to earn that status in his debut. I still like him, though.

Originally Posted by tk13:
That was my first reaction... what happens to Cain now? Not just in terms of team, but how much money is he going to get? He's older than Jackson.

The Brewers already have an issue with too many outfielders. They seem to be willing to make aggressive moves, but if they did sign an OF they'd be looking to trade someone like Domingo Santana, who was pretty good last year.

I think he ends up in Milwaukee or Texas, though if I'm the Royals, I'd be thinking long and hard about taking my Hosmer money and spending it on a combo of Cain and Moustakas (at this point you can probably get both for less than what Hosmer was offered).

If the Brewers move an OF, I'd expect some combo of prospect Monte Harrison and Keon Braxton rather than Santana. And I'd expect the return to be a quality SP.

If they land Darvish in FA and add a solid #2/3 type behind him via trade, that team is built to do damage.
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