Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
JUST IN: The State Department has raised its global health advisory to Level 4 -- its highest level -- telling Americans "Do Not Travel" abroad because of the COVID-19 pandemic. https://t.co/3K1WXSl7tRpic.twitter.com/rasdYF1jdt
Originally Posted by lcarus:
Rent can positively and negatively affect your credit like anything else
I once worked in mortgages and I have pulled credit over 1000 times easily and I’ve never once seen renters filing a collection and negatively affecting our credit report unless that has changed because I guess it has been about 20 years.
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
As for the "Food Supply Chain", I went to two Ralphs grocery stores this morning.
I was at the Studio City Ralphs at 8:00am, which is when they're opening now. They had plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables but the refridgerated section, whether it was yogurt, milk, egg whites and cheese were completely empty. They were also completely out of any type of lunch meat, whether turkey or baloney, hot dogs, salami, sandwich cheese, etc. The freezer section was completely empty, outside of ice cream and frozen treats. No veggies, fruits, microwave meals, frozen pizza, etc.
I got to the second Ralphs, located in North Hollywood, around 8:45ish. Same with the fresh fruits and vegetable, frozens, etc. but they did have three packages of hot dogs, so I grabbed them all. There was no meat in the case, other than a couple of nasty looking steaks.
I spoke with both managers and asked when they expect lunch meats and was told "We don't know. I could be today, tomorrow or next week".
Also, no toilet paper at either location but there were paper towels.
Yeah its' really hit and miss in the store and on Amazon. There was plenty of fresh meat when I was at the store yesterday, but obviously things like cleaning supplies, TP etc. were long gone. The diary section was well stocked as well and the giant 45 minute lines to get to the checker were gone. Thankfully when this first started, I stocked up on all of that, so it's all good. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jjjayb:
I truly believe many more people have this or have had it than realize it. In December & January there was a big uptick of people with Flu like symptoms that tested negative for the Flu. Could it be they had Corona Virus?
At my work the department I'm in there were a lot of people that were sick with heavy respiratory issues. Most assumed it was the flu. The coworker that sits next to me was tested for the Flu and was negative. She did get diagnosed with pneumonia. I'm leaning towards thinking it may have been Corona.
A good friend is an ER nurse at Johns Hopkins, and she said the same thing. There were a lot of people in January/February she would have bet her house had the flu, but tested negative. [Reply]
Miami-Dade County closing all "non-essential businesses" starting tonight.
At least there seems to be a wide range of businesses still open and considered "essential" businesses. Also restaurants can continue to stay open for takeout/food delivery.
Originally Posted by Bwana:
Yeah its' really hit and miss in the store and on Amazon.
Awesome! I'm glad you aren't seeing much interruption.
As for here, I haven't been able to order any food or toilet paper, etc. from Amazon, Target.com, Walmart.com or Costco.com for nearly 2 weeks. I can load my cart, then when it comes time to checkout, I receive a message saying "Delivery Not Available To Your Area".
Yesterday, I spent about an hour loading up a cart at Ralphs Studio City and when I went to check out, there was no option for delivery or pick up. So I was at the store when it opened at 8am and saw why: Most of the shelves were bare. The freezer and refrigerated sections were completely void of product.
I may need to drive an hour or so inland to get food the next time. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jjjayb:
I truly believe many more people have this or have had it than realize it. In December & January there was a big uptick of people with Flu like symptoms that tested negative for the Flu. Could it be they had Corona Virus?
At my work the department I'm in there were a lot of people that were sick with heavy respiratory issues. Most assumed it was the flu. The coworker that sits next to me was tested for the Flu and was negative. She did get diagnosed with pneumonia. I'm leaning towards thinking it may have been Corona.
The Illuminati leaked the "beta" version of COVID-19 in America as a "dry run" before they unleashed it on China, knowing population density and industry/trade would make it far more effective and deadlier, far faster, than anywhere else.
In 30 years the truth will come out that COVID-19 was an inside job just like 9/11 but it will be too late by then because everyone will be on the new world order teat standing in line for milk and bread.
Once America gets a taste of free government handouts and everyone realizes Uncle Sam can afford to give everyone a "living wage supplement," there will no going back, especially with the greatest generation almost gone and the boomers losing massive retirement savings via the fake "stock market crash" that has been engineered by this chaos. [Reply]