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Nzoner's Game Room>2019 Free agency Thread
O.city 03:24 PM 02-05-2019
We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.

If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.

https://overthecap.com/
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Mecca 02:13 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
You also have situations where you didn't win it in a year or have had Rogers for however long and have 1 SB.

I don't think you have to get crazy with it to give yourself a better chance than we have right now, but we'll see.
Green Bay failed him, they literally never signed anyone while blowing draft pick after draft pick....

Their defense is full of high draft picks that aren't any good.
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O.city 02:13 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
At that level of contract, it's not '2 years and we'll see'. Not with those guarantees, not with those bonuses.

Those are 4 year commitments, man. Guys that have fought themselves to the to top of the payscale aren't going to take deals you can get out of in 2 seasons.
As the cap goes up though, why couldn't you? I mean that's likely where we seem to be headed with guaranteed deals or whatever they want.
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WarChiefs89 02:13 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Because it's gonna be a lot worse if you push in.

2021 and beyond are gonna be a little tricky any way to stack it. But it's gonna be a LOT tricky if you overload the next few years.

And Mahomes is a force multiplier but eventually you hit a tipping point where you're asking him to multiply by zero. I don't think he needs a super-team to win a championship. But lets quantify a squad and say he can win with a '70' ranked Madden team that adds him at QB. And by pushing in, you can get that team up to 90 over the coming years. Well you also greatly increase the odds of it dropping to 60 thereafter.

I'll take 6 years between 75-80 over a handful of years at 85-90 and a handful more at 55-60.

Mahomes doesn't need a monster around him. But what he needs is a credible team and as many bites at the apples as we can give him. If trying to build the monster takes away a couple bites at the apple, when he may well have been able to win with the credible team to begin with, it's not a trade I'm willing to make.
This is such a good point to the "have to go all in on the rookie deal group". I just want everyone in that group to understand that years 3-5 are hurt badly by going all-in now. It's already gonna be hard in those years, but going all-in now may make it impossible. Great QB's win with solid teams around them (see Pats, 2018). As tempting as it is to want to trade picks for players and max out cap now to make a run, understand we have a 15-year time horizon right now, not 2. That also doesn't mean we shouldn't maneuver ourselves into position to compete for the next 2 years because it is easier now than it will be once Mahomes is paid. Gotta be a balance
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htismaqe 02:14 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Green Bay failed him, they literally never signed anyone while blowing draft pick after draft pick....

Their defense is full of high draft picks that aren't any good.
Yep.
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Mecca 02:14 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Or a CB. Adderly depends on how they plan to employ Honey Badger. Adderly is a true FS who could excel in that role.
Having 2 guys with great cover skills at safety is a must in todays game...it would also let HB be a real swiss army knife as the other safety can cover for him...
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O.city 02:14 PM 03-13-2019
Just released Berry
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Mecca 02:15 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
Just released Berry
Really?
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DJ's left nut 02:15 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
You also have situations where you didn't win it in a year or have had Rogers for however long and have 1 SB.

I don't think you have to get crazy with it to give yourself a better chance than we have right now, but we'll see.
But there's a difference between the Packers (who essentially never do anything) and locking half your cap into 4 players.
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OKchiefs 03-13-2019, 02:15 PM
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St. Patty's Fire 02:15 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
Just released Berry

The #Chiefs have released S Eric Berry. End of an era in KC.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 13, 2019

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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 02:15 PM 03-13-2019
Berry gone!!
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Steron 02:16 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Pretty clear by now Berry isn't going anywhere, so I wouldn't bet on a first round safety.

Berry was just released.
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DJ's left nut 02:16 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Really?
So sayeth Arrowhead Pride.

Good work, Chiefs.
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St. Patty's Fire 02:16 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Pretty clear by now Berry isn't going anywhere, so I wouldn't bet on a first round safety.
HAHAHAHAH

you’re fucking retarded
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O.city 02:16 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Pretty clear by now Berry isn't going anywhere, so I wouldn't bet on a first round safety.
:-)
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Mecca 02:16 PM 03-13-2019
Damn it's nice to see this team isn't fucking around.
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