Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I'd like to get those two really rolling together like Atlanta uses Freeman and Coleman. Just a couple of well balanced runners who run hard as hell and can catch the ball.
This team is going to need a top notch run game to make an AFC Championship under Alex Smith in 2017, along with a top notch defense. Now, if Mahomes becomes as good as many including myself think he could be, it's a whole new level for the Chiefs. The offense could become something it hasn't been in nearly 15 years.
I honestly dont see our guys being quite as dynamic as Atlantas duo
But what our guys lack in explosiveness, they should be be able to make up for with with a grinding, wear you down, kill the clock style... provided Ehingers return is the cure for what ailed us last year
What Alex Smith brings this year, I have no clue... tempted to expect the same old shit because thats how he has mostly played for his entire career
But maybe, just maybe, the writing on the wall spurs him to reach outside of himself and he tries to MAKE plays for once... 'good' Smiff can approach dynamic, we'll see
The pressure will either make him wilt, or make him show off
If he decides to grab his balls, we could have a great year [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC Tattoo:
I think the difference is that you don't appreciate the hard work and determination it takes to get the Super Bowl. You just want to celebrate the Super Bowl. I want to celebrate the road to victory and recognize the sacrifices it takes to get there. Just like road in life without the journey there is no destination.
If you actually think that, then you don't know me AT ALL.
My main beef has been that there has been a huge contingent obsessed with making certain that no Chiefs fan appreciates the hard work and determination that it takes, UNLESS it gets to the SB. Anyone who appreciates anything about the team until it wins a SB is 'content with mediocrity, and a midwest pie-wagon who only cares about stuffing their face in the parking lot and signing over the paychecks to the Hunt family.'
This broad sentiment has been distilled down no one who 'actually'cares about the Chiefs is satisifed with anything but QB, QB, QB!! And it's been further distilled into no one who 'actually' cares is satisfied with anything other than a high draft pick first round, Chiefs-picked prospect.
And I've been vocally supportive of drafting a QB, but just not drafting one just to say we did. That's why I'm actually more in Mahome's corner than his supposed fanbois. They don't know what Mahomes will be, and think that he is just a function of the franchise deciding that Alex had to go. I believe that the franchise still believes in Alex, but are aware he's aging. Most importantly, I believe that they think Mahomes is a prospect worth moving heaven and earth for REGARDLESS of how much Alex has in the tank. THEY are doing the hard work to build a winner.
But just as soon as these supposed fans who've done nothing but bitch for decades now [not that there isn't reason to bitch on occasion, I'm talking about NOTHING but bitch all day every day] get that draft pick QB, it's immediately 'eh, it was probably a reach, and it may end in tears, but isn't it fun to imagine if he's a superstar like the world has never seen while we're stroking our dicks in the offseason.' [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks:
Oh, I very much have been in that situation.. which is why I am calling it now.
There will be every excuse handed to Mahomes... and that in and of itself is ok. That's typically what fans do for their QBs that they have hopes for.
The difference here will be.. the extreme hypocrisy in excusing this one, when there was not an inch of latitude extended to another.
You're right. I have seen it with my own eyes, as a somewhat former SF fan. It was and still can be hilarious to read people defend one with similar lines that they once condemned others for using on another.
You realize one is a many year veteran, the other a rookie. Correct? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Nickhead:
it's not about being wrong if alex helps with a super bowl win. it's about not rushing someone into a position they aren't ready for, and securing options in the future whether it be salary cap reasons or production reasons. alex has done nothing to lose his position as starter this year. if he chokes the team has another option the year after. if he doesn't choke, the team wins, alex demands a high restructure on his contract and is then left to find a team willing to pay it. either way its a win win. :-)
How do we know when Patrick will be ready or not it's all speculation? He has the work ethic and pedigree to get himself ready. It may or may not happen this year. It's not rushing him if he and the coaches not us think he is ready. He has the tools in the brain and talent to get on the field this year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC Tattoo:
I'd rather be wrong about Alex Smith and win a Super Bowl with Alex Smith this year. Go win us a Super Bowl Alex Smith or Fuck Off. I will joyfully eat crow we win a Super Bowl with Alex Smith.
You shouldn't ever have to make a statement like this, especially to a fool such as Babbly.
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC:
Theres a better chance of Dane actually being nice AND Tigger to stop licking Danes balls than there is of Alex Smith winning a superbowl...
Its not possible.
Reerun KNOWS CP and Chiefs Football. That's why they hate you. I don't recall you ever being wrong on any prediction you have made at CP.
Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks:
Oh, I very much have been in that situation.. which is why I am calling it now.
There will be every excuse handed to Mahomes... and that in and of itself is ok. That's typically what fans do for their QBs that they have hopes for.
The difference here will be.. the extreme hypocrisy in excusing this one, when there was not an inch of latitude extended to another.
You're right. I have seen it with my own eyes, as a somewhat former SF fan. It was and still can be hilarious to read people defend one with similar lines that they once condemned others for using on another.
As it should be.
Mahomes is "ours". The Chiefs brought him to the NFL. The other guy has no connection to the franchise; he's just another unwanted hired hand. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks:
Oh, I very much have been in that situation.. which is why I am calling it now.
There will be every excuse handed to Mahomes... and that in and of itself is ok. That's typically what fans do for their QBs that they have hopes for.
The difference here will be.. the extreme hypocrisy in excusing this one, when there was not an inch of latitude extended to another.
You're right. I have seen it with my own eyes, as a somewhat former SF fan. It was and still can be hilarious to read people defend one with similar lines that they once condemned others for using on another.
No way in hell is that hypocrisy... we got one via draft... we got the other as an unwanted retread [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Plus PM gets the benefit of the doubt because apparently it takes 5 years to learn this system.
A veteran even. It takes a veteran 5 years to learn a system that was supposedly compatible for him to begin with....a system that has been watered down to reciprocate for his limitations. [Reply]
SDH - I've been here long enough and have seen enough to understand how CP works. As far as predictions.... I'm sure I've been full retard somewhere down the line. [Reply]
The difference is that after they had seen them play, their stance changed...
Everyone is wrong at some point.
You, on the other hand, have seen a guy play like a complete pussy, and still can't figure out that he's not good enough.
I was wrong about Tamba Hali when we switched to the 3-4, wrong about Tyson Jackson AND wrong about Alex Smith being good enough to hitch your franchise to.
But I wasn't stupid enough to stick to those beliefs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks:
Oh, I very much have been in that situation.. which is why I am calling it now.
There will be every excuse handed to Mahomes... and that in and of itself is ok. That's typically what fans do for their QBs that they have hopes for.
The difference here will be.. the extreme hypocrisy in excusing this one, when there was not an inch of latitude extended to another.
You're right. I have seen it with my own eyes, as a somewhat former SF fan. It was and still can be hilarious to read people defend one with similar lines that they once condemned others for using on another.
Wow. You are a dumb mother ****er.
Of course you hold out hope for improvement in a guy in his early 20s, who has only played less than a handful of seasons..
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
A direct admission of what I've always said. People who bitch about the QB aren't REALLY about winning a championship, or even winning. They're about the 'excitement' of the draft lottery.
They make the lives of fans who are actually interested in building a winner miserable day in, day out, year in, year out, . . . on the pretense that it's because the Chiefs don't have SB rings, when it's really because they're itching to open up draft day presents and beat their meat about how exciting it will be.
No.
Just No.
You don't win SBs without a franchise QB.
When you don't have one, it should be the most important thing on your team's to do list....to get one.
Do you think people will be clamoring for a 1st round QB for the next 3 seasons at least?
If Mahomes busts, then guess what the team's most important priority is....
You guessed it..
Originally Posted by rico:
A veteran even. It takes a veteran 5 years to learn a system that was supposedly compatible for him to begin with....a system that has been watered down to reciprocate for his limitations.
This. Not one negative comment from the Alexsexual Asshat Association will be tolerated for a minimum of 5 years.
I suggest all CP posters who support Mahomes and loathe Smith's bastard fan club adopt this platform the instant Mahomes hits the field as the starter.
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC:
SDH - I've been here long enough and have seen enough to understand how CP works. As far as predictions.... I'm sure I've been full retard somewhere down the line.
You're a precious boo and CP legend. Never change.
Originally Posted by beach tribe:
The difference is that after they had seen them play, their stance changed...
I feel the need to explain this again. I had selected Murray as the QB prospect at that time that had the most in common with Smith and was most likely to NOT upset the apple cart like Favre did with Reid and Holmgren.
I had no desire to see Murray as a starter, and the entire comment was a slight against him and Smith.
But, you know, Tigger gonna' Tigger.
Originally Posted by beach tribe:
No.
Just No.
You don't win SBs without a franchise QB.
When you don't have one, it should be the most important thing on your team's to do list....to get one.
Do you think people will be clamoring for a 1st round QB for the next 3 seasons at least?
If Mahomes busts, then guess what the team's most important priority is....
You guessed it..
