Originally Posted by JakeF:
Dan Patrick says the video is absolutely Kraft and that it's so embarrassing that Kraft should just step down and let his son take over the team. Yikes. Personally i don't care if Kraft went for a happy ending or even if he paid for a prostitute.
The only things i care about are:
1) Kraft knew the girl was underage
2) Kraft knew the girl was being held captive by somebody as a sex slave
That would change everything. I thought she was old. [Reply]
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Dan Patrick says the video is absolutely Kraft and that it's so embarrassing that Kraft should just step down and let his son take over the team. Yikes. Personally i don't care if Kraft went for a happy ending or even if he paid for a prostitute.
The only things i care about are:
1) Kraft knew the girl was underage
2) Kraft knew the girl was being held captive by somebody as a sex slave
1. If the girl is underage, the video won't be released.
2. It doesn't matter if he knew. You are entering into an illegal transaction where it is WIDELY common that girls are both underaged and forced into prostitution. The onus is on the buyer to know that she ISN'T being coerced or of age. You don't get to say "I didn't know that she WASN'T acting on her free will and of age!" [Reply]
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
1. If the girl is underage, the video won't be released.
2. It doesn't matter if he knew. You are entering into an illegal transaction where it is WIDELY common that girls are both underaged and forced into prostitution. The onus is on the buyer to know that she ISN'T being coerced or of age. You don't get to say "I didn't know that she WASN'T acting on her free will and of age!"
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
1. If the girl is underage, the video won't be released.
2. It doesn't matter if he knew. You are entering into an illegal transaction where it is WIDELY common that girls are both underaged and forced into prostitution. The onus is on the buyer to know that she ISN'T being coerced or of age. You don't get to say "I didn't know that she WASN'T acting on her free will and of age!"
Showing your stupidity once again.
99.9% of Asian and Russian women in "rub and tug, happy ending places" are NOT UNDERAGED! You have no idea what you are talking about. [Reply]
Originally Posted by scho63:
Showing your stupidity once again.
99.9% of Asian and Russian women in "rub and tug, happy ending places" are NOT UNDERAGED! You have no idea what you are talking about.
But it's Bob Kraft, so the women were likely obvious children, wearing actual chains, with "sex slave" tattooed on their forehead, in Hebrew, and the Patriots could clearly have every SB win stripped from them and forfeit approximately 42 draft picks.
Otherwise Goodell will once again prove that he is just Kraft's toady.
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Dan Patrick says the video is absolutely Kraft and that it's so embarrassing that Kraft should just step down and let his son take over the team. Yikes. Personally i don't care if Kraft went for a happy ending or even if he paid for a prostitute.
The only things i care about are:
1) Kraft knew the girl was underage
2) Kraft knew the girl was being held captive by somebody as a sex slave
Pretty sure "Lei Wang (A/F 05/20/73)" means Asian Female and her birthdate.
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
But it's Bob Kraft, so the women were likely obvious children, wearing actual chains, with "sex slave" tattooed on their forehead, in Hebrew, and the Patriots could clearly have every SB win stripped from them and forfeit approximately 42 draft picks.
Otherwise Goodell will once again prove that he is just Kraft's toady.
Get with the program!!
That's pretty much it ...
We don't know the truth (at least, I don't), but man ... if we're talking about underage girl(s) and/or sex/human trafficking, we'll soon find out what White Entitlement and Financial Privilege really looks like.
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I notice you didn't address his other point.
I guess forced prostitution is okay if they're over 18?
No it's NOT alright and that is an asinine question.
The biggest issue in ALL prostitution is first and foremost if the girl is underage. It goes from being a simple solicitation problem to an R Kelley deep in the shit pedophile problem.
Feds don't like adults sleeping with minors for money and the truth is the younger they are, the more likely they are being coerced into doing it or held by force.
Look at the reopening of the Jeffrey Epstein case in Florida. That could easily implicate Bill Clinton. He rode on the guys plane 7-8 times to "Lolita Island".
The underage shit is all underground and very secretive. Asian Spas in strip malls, office parks, industrial zones and other public places are a dime dozen and the worst kept secrets. [Reply]
Originally Posted by scho63:
No it's NOT alright and that is an asinine question.
The biggest issue in ALL prostitution is first and foremost if the girl is underage. It goes from being a simple solicitation problem to an R Kelley deep in the shit pedophile problem.
Feds don't like adults sleeping with minors for money and the truth is the younger they are, the more likely they are being coerced into doing it or held by force.
Look at the reopening of the Jeffrey Epstein case in Florida. That could easily implicate Bill Clinton. He rode on the guys plane 7-8 times to "Lolita Island".
The underage shit is all underground and very secretive. Asian Spas in strip malls, office parks, industrial zones and other public places are a dime dozen and the worst kept secrets.
And all of it is exploitative and damaging both emotionally and psychologically to the women involved, underaged or not.
You said the majority of the Asian and Eastern European women in the industry aren't underaged but you said nothing of the willingness to participate, which I found odd. Considering that my own personal experience suggests that even if they're not underage, they're almost ALL unwilling participants, brought here and forced to perform against their will for one reason or another. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FAX:
That's pretty much it ...
We don't know the truth (at least, I don't), but man ... if we're talking about underage girl(s) and/or sex/human trafficking, we'll soon find out what White Entitlement and Financial Privilege really looks like.
FAX
Based on what Marcellus posted, if Kraft was dude #13, then we're talking about 46 and 59 year old women. Pretty sure that's legal age everywhere in the world. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
And all of it is exploitative and damaging both emotionally and psychologically to the women involved, underaged or not.
You said the majority of the Asian and Eastern European women in the industry aren't underaged but you said nothing of the willingness to participate, which I found odd. Considering that my own personal experience suggests that even if they're not underage, they're almost ALL unwilling participants, brought here and forced to perform against their will for one reason or another.
Sure, but how does Kraft or any other dude not involved in the operation actually know that?
And the "happy ending" at an asian massage parlor is so incredibly common it's a cultural reference. Literally in the Urban Dictionary.
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
Sure, but how does Kraft or any other dude not involved in the operation actually know that?
He doesn't. Which is why it's best to avoid said establishments altogether. But this is America, I wouldn't expect anybody to make a morally correct choice. It doesn't feel good enough. [Reply]