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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>QB Impressions
Direckshun 12:25 AM 01-03-2017
First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.
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BryanBusby 09:28 PM 09-18-2017
Originally Posted by OldSchool:
Isn't he just a redshirt Sophomore this year?
Yeah.
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staylor26 11:16 PM 09-18-2017
Darnold is easily the best and the only one I can see being on Mahomes level.

He should probably stay one more year though. For one, he needs it, and for two, who wants to play for the Jets?

Rudolph is the most underrated. I think he could be a solid starter.
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BryanBusby 11:17 PM 09-18-2017
Rosen is pretty decent and will be the lock at 1.

I liked Rudolph in the wintet and want to see how he progresses.
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O.city 08:03 AM 09-19-2017
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
I think people really over estimated how ready Darnold is.

He needs more time.
He's improving at a crazy rate

Darnold and Rosen are already good from the pocket. That's a great starting point
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Quesadilla Joe 09:22 AM 09-19-2017
Breer on Rudolph...

Spoiler!


Breer's first "Big Board"...

Spoiler!


https://www.si.com/2018-nfl-draft-qu...gs-stock-watch
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RunKC 09:32 AM 09-19-2017
Mahomes is in a different level than these QB's. I haven't seen as impressive as a showing from these guys as Mahomes vs LSU.
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O.city 10:30 AM 09-19-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Mahomes is in a different level than these QB's. I haven't seen as impressive as a showing from these guys as Mahomes vs LSU.
As a prospect, I .....eh.... probably not.

Rosen and Darnold are really good prospects. Like really really good.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 08:03 PM 09-19-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Mahomes is in a different level than these QB's. I haven't seen as impressive as a showing from these guys as Mahomes vs LSU.
We really planned the invasion and attack for Mahomes in a manner that would make General Patton proud.
Had it not been for that ONE photo of Mahomes and Clark, NO ONE would have had a fucking clue about what KC was up to until it was too late.

I really REALLY hope that Veach is as advertised and that his work/involvement in the last few drafts will be pinpointed and brought to light so that we can have SOME idea as to how much talent we're actually getting with him.
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OldSchool 11:37 PM 09-19-2017
Darnold is a future franchise QB. I assume he's not going to come out for another couple of years though. That means Rosen is your best QB for 2018 draft, and it's not certain if he comes out either. Rosen is really damn good too, but he takes too many chances, IMO.
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BryanBusby 12:08 AM 09-20-2017
Rosen doesn't seem to like school.

If gets a 2nd round grade or higher he's gonna leave.
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Quesadilla Joe 07:38 AM 09-20-2017

For people who think Mason Rudolph is the "flavor of the month", please learn how to evaluate QB's. He's the real deal guys!

— Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) September 20, 2017


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Quesadilla Joe 09:14 AM 09-22-2017
From DJ and Bucky Brooks...

Josh Allen poses NFL dilemma; Round 1 look for Mason Rudolph

Spoiler!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...&sf116043404=1
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DJ's left nut 09:29 AM 09-22-2017
Originally Posted by OldSchool:
Darnold is a future franchise QB. I assume he's not going to come out for another couple of years though. That means Rosen is your best QB for 2018 draft, and it's not certain if he comes out either. Rosen is really damn good too, but he takes too many chances, IMO.
If you get graded in the top 5, you have to go. You just do.

Think of guys like Locker, Lienart and Barkley; guys that were going to be top 10 quarterbacks who stuck around. Now Locker's stock only slipped a little bit but he was considered a potential 1.1 in that draft (it's important to remember how badly that class s*******ed). Now he's an outlier because the draft rules changed and he took a $30 million hit by not leaving early, but he also got exposed a bit as a SR.

Leinart was, what, mid-1st when he got drafted? He didn't plummet but he still cost himself money by sticking around.

I just can't think of a good reason for a guy who's universally regarded as a top 3 pick to stay in college. He'll get far more seasoning as a pro, it gets him a step closer to FA and the end of his rookie contract that much sooner and ultimately saves him from the possibility of slipping with a sub-par following season (and then what, he sticks around for ANOTHER free season?)
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BryanBusby 09:49 AM 09-22-2017
I think you could argue that he could very well get better quality prepping for another season at SC over being piss-pounded with shit coaching and no weapons in NY.

The Jets haven't been able to develop shit since Chad Pennington.
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OldSchool 04:50 PM 09-23-2017
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
If you get graded in the top 5, you have to go. You just do.

Think of guys like Locker, Lienart and Barkley; guys that were going to be top 10 quarterbacks who stuck around. Now Locker's stock only slipped a little bit but he was considered a potential 1.1 in that draft (it's important to remember how badly that class s*******ed). Now he's an outlier because the draft rules changed and he took a $30 million hit by not leaving early, but he also got exposed a bit as a SR.

Leinart was, what, mid-1st when he got drafted? He didn't plummet but he still cost himself money by sticking around.

I just can't think of a good reason for a guy who's universally regarded as a top 3 pick to stay in college. He'll get far more seasoning as a pro, it gets him a step closer to FA and the end of his rookie contract that much sooner and ultimately saves him from the possibility of slipping with a sub-par following season (and then what, he sticks around for ANOTHER free season?)
Idk, everything I've read about him seems to point towards him being really dedicated to USC, enough so that he might stick around to try for a championship. Who knows though, people change their minds all of the time.
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