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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>****OFFICIAL 2019 Saccopoo CP Mock Draft Thread****
RealSNR 11:42 AM 03-09-2019
START DATE AND TIME: March 18th, noon central

RULES:

Spoiler!


Round 1
1. Arizona - kccrow - Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma
2. San Francisco - CoMoChief - Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky
3. New York Jets - staylor26 - Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio State
4. Oakland - Marco Polo - Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama
5. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - Dwayne Haskins, QB, OSU
6. New York Giants - TambaBerry - Devin White, LB, LSU
7. Jacksonville - Chief Northman - Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
8. Detroit - chiefscafan - Brian Burns, EDGE, Florida State
9. Buffalo - DJ's left nut - Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
10. Denver - Hoover - Rashan Gary, DT, Michigan
11. Cincinnati - Rain Man - Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma
12. Green Bay - RealSNR - Noah Fant, TE, Iowa
13. Miami - The Franchise - Drew Lock, QB, Missouri
14. Atlanta - BossChief - Montez Sweat, DE, Mississippi State
15. Washington - htismaqe - Daniel Jones, QB, Duke
16. Carolina - Chargem - Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson
17. New York Giants (from Cleveland) - TambaBerry - Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
18. Minnesota - RealSNR - Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama
19. Tennessee - Marco Polo - Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson
20. Pittsburgh - chiefscafan - D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss
21. Seattle - BossChief - TJ Hockenson, TE, Iowa
22. Baltimore - TambaBerry - Devin Bush, LB, Michigan
23. Houston - CoMoChief - DeAndre Baker, CB, Georgia
24. Oakland (from Chicago) - Marco Polo - Byron Murphy, CB, Washington
25. Philadelphia - Chief Northman - Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State
26. Indianapolis - staylor26 - Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware
27. Oakland (from Dallas) - Marco Polo - Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida
28. Los Angeles Chargers - Sfeihc - Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State
29. Kansas City - DJ's left nut - Garrett Bradbury, C, NC State
30. Green Bay (from New Orleans) - RealSNR - Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson
31. Los Angeles Rams - Hoover - Greg Little, OT, Mississippi
32. New England - kccrow - Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State

Round 2
33. Arizona - kccrow - Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia
34. Indianapolis (from NYJ) - staylor26 - Josh Jacobs, RB, Alabama
35. Oakland - Marco Polo - Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State
36. San Francisco - CoMoChief - Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State
37. NY Giants - TambaBerry - A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss
38. Jacksonville - Chief Northman - Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State
39. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State
40. Buffalo - DJ's left nut - Irv Smith, TE, Alabama
41. Denver - Hoover - Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson
42. Cincinnati - Rain Man - Mack Wilson, ILB, Alabama
43. Detroit - chiefscafan - Taylor Rapp, S, Washington
44. Green Bay - RealSNR - Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame
45. Atlanta - BossChief - Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple
46. Washington - htismaqe - J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford
47. Carolina - Chargem - Marquise Brown, WR, Oklahoma
48. Miami - The Franchise - Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State
49. Cleveland - The Franchise - Yodny Cajuste, OT, West Virginia
50. Minnesota - RealSNR - Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama
51. Tennessee - Marco Polo - Chris Lindstrom, G, Boston College
52. Pittsburgh - chiefscafan - Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame
53. Philadelphia (from BAL) - Chief Northman - Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida
54. Houston (from SEA) - CoMoChief - D'Andre Walker, EDGE, Georgia
55. Houston - CoMoChief - Darnell Savage, S, Maryland
56. New England (from CHI) - kccrow - Zach Allen, DE, Boston College
57. Philadelphia - Chief Northman - David Montgomery, RB, Iowa State
58. Dallas - Chargem - Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia
59. Indianapolis (from NYJ) - staylor26 - N’Keal Harry, WR, Arizona State
60. LA Chargers - Sfeihc - Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina
61. Kansas City - DJ's left nut - Charles Omenihu, DE, Texas
62. New Orleans - htismaqe - Joejuan Williams, CB, Vanderbilt
63. Kansas City (from LAR) - DJ's left nut - Dre'Mont Jones, DT, OSU
64. New England - kccrow - Kahale Warring, TE, San Diego State

Round 3
65. Arizona - kccrow - Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech
66. Pittsburgh (from Oakland) - chiefscafan - Tre Lamar, ILB, Clemson
67. San Francisco - CoMoChief - Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis
68. New York Jets – staylor26 - David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin
69. Jacksonville – Chief Northman - Erik McCoy, C/G, Texas A&M
70. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - L.J. Collier, DE, TCU
71. [Forfeited] New York Giants
72. Denver - Hoover - Michael Jordan, C/G, Ohio State
73. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Chase Winovich, DE, Michigan
74. New England (from Detroit) - kccrow - Max Scharping, OT, Northern Illinois
75. Buffalo – DJ’s left nut - Michael Deiter, G, Wisconsin
76. Green Bay – RealSNR - Evan Worthington, S, Colorado
77. Washington – htismaqe - Nate Davis, OG, Charlotte
78. Carolina - Chargem - Oshane Ximines, EDGE, Old Dominion
79. Miami – The Franchise - Conner McGovern, OG, Penn State
80. Atlanta – BossChief - Mike Weber, RB, Ohio State
81. Cleveland – The Franchise - David Long, CB, Michigan
82. Minnesota – RealSNR - Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State
83. Tennessee – MarcoPolo - Kaden Smith, TE, Stanford
84. Pittsburgh – chiefscafan - Justice Hill, RB, Oklahoma State
85. Seattle – BossChief - Ryan Finley, QB, North Carolina State
86. Baltimore – TambaBerry - Amani Hooker, S, Iowa
87. Houston - CoMoChief - Andy Isabella, WR, Massachusetts
88. Chicago – Rain Man - Miles Sanders, RB, Penn State
89. Detroit (from Philadelphia) - chiefscafan - Damien Harris, RB, Alabama
90. Indianapolis – staylor26 - Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan
91. Dallas – Chargem - Isaiah Buggs, DL, Alabama
92. Los Angeles Chargers – Sfeihc - Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington
93. Kansas City – DJ’s left nut - Germaine Pratt, LB, North Carolina State
94. New York Jets (from New Orleans) – staylor26 - Lonnie Johnson Jr., CB, Kentucky
95. Los Angeles Rams - Hoover - Jamel Dean, CB, Auburn
96. New York Giants (from New England) – TambaBerry - Will Grier, QB, West Virginia
97. Washington - htismaqe - Joe Jackson, EDGE/DE, Miami
98. New England - kccrow - Gerald Willis, DT, Miami
99. Jacksonville (from LA Rams) – Chief Northman - Joe Giles-Harris, ILB, Duke
100. Los Angeles Rams - Hoover - T.J. Edwards, ILB, Wisconsin
101. Carolina - Chargem - Ben Powers, G, Oklahoma
102. New England - kccrow - Miles Boykin, WR, Notre Dame
103. Baltimore - TambaBerry - Jalen Hurd, WR, Baylor

Round 4
104. Arizona - kccrow - Khalen Saunders, DT, Western Illinois
105. San Francisco - CoMoChief - Christian Miller, EDGE, Alabama
106. NY Jets – staylor26 - Mecole Hardman, WR, Georgia
107. Oakland – Marco Polo - Vosean Joseph, LB, Florida
108. Tampa Bay – Sfeihc - Tytus Howard, OT, Alabama State
109. New York Giants – TambaBerry - Will Harris, SS, Boston College
110. Jacksonville – Chief Northman - Devin Singletary, RB, FAU
111. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Bobby Evans, OT, Oklahoma
112. Detroit - chiefscafan - Hunter Renfrow, WR, Clemson
113. Buffalo – DJ’s left nut - Blake Cashman, LB, Minnesota
114. Baltimore (from Denver) - TambaBerry - Josh Oliver, TE, San Jose State
115. Green Bay – RealSNR - Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri
116. Carolina – Chargem - Drue Tranquill, LB, Notre Dame
117. Miami – The Franchise - Anthony Nelson, DE, Iowa
118. Atlanta - BossChief - Terrill Hanks, LB, New Mexico State
119. Green Bay (from Washington) - RealSNR - Jordan Brown, CB, South Dakota State
120. Cleveland – The Franchise - Mike Bell, S, Fresno State
121. Minnesota - RealSNR - Renell Wren, DT, Arizona State
122. Tennessee – Marco Polo - Kelvin Harmon, WR, North Carolina State
123. Pittsburgh - chiefscafan - Porter Gustin , LB/DE, USC
124. Baltimore - TambaBerry - Austin Bryant, EDGE, Clemson
125. Seattle - BossChief - Ben Banogu, EDGE, TCU
126. Denver (from Houston) - Hoover - Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA
127. Chicago – Rain Man - Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M
128. Philadelphia – Chief Northman - Daniel Wise, DT, Kansas
129. Dallas - Chargem - Dawson Knox, TE, Ole Miss
130. Indianapolis – staylor26 - Armon Watts, DT, Arkansas
131. Los Angeles Chargers - Sfeihc - Isaiah Johnson, CB, Houston
132. Buffalo (from Kansas City) – DJ’s left nut - Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State
133. New York Giants (from New Orleans) – Tambaberry - Trey Pipkins, OT, Sioux Falls
134. Los Angeles Rams - Hoover - Ross Pierschbacher, G, Alabama
135. New England - kccrow - Jarrett Stidham, QB, Auburn
136. Indianapolis – staylor26 - Shareef Miller, EDGE, Penn State
137. Dallas - Chargem - Saivion Smith, CB, Alabama
138. Atlanta - BossChief - Greg Gaines, DT, Washington
139. Philadelphia – Chief Northman - Chase Hansen, OLB, Utah

Round 5
140. Arizona - kccrow - David Sills, WR, West Virginia
141. Oakland (from NYJ) - Marco Polo - Benny Snell, Jr., RB, Kentucky
142. Pittsburgh (from OAK) - chiefscafan - Ryan Bates, OG, Penn State
143. NY Giants (from DET) - Tambaberry - Elijah Holyfield, RB, Georgia
144. NY Giants - Tambaberry - Jaquan Johnson, S, Miami
145. Cleveland (from JAX) - The Franchise - Trysten Hill, DT, Central Florida
146. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - Maxx Crosby, EDGE, Eastern Michigan
147. Detroit - chiefscafan - Kyle Shurmur, QB, Vanderbilt
148. Buffalo - DJ's left nut - Chuma Edoga, OT, USC
149. Denver - Hoover - Marvell Tell, III, S, USC
150. Cincinnati - Rain Man - Kris Boyd, CB, Texas
151. Green Bay - RealSNR - Dennis Daley, OT, South Carolina
152. Miami - The Franchise - Daylon Mack, DT, Texas A&M
153. Atlanta - BossChief - Clayton Thorson, QB, Northwestern
154. Washington - htismaqe - Andrew Wingard, S, Wyoming
155. Carolina - Chargem - Wyatt Ray, EDGE, Boston College
156. NY Giants (from CLE) - Tambaberry - Mitch Hyatt, OL, Clemson
157. Denver (from MIN) - Hoover - Tyree Jackson, QB, Buffalo
158. Tennessee - Marco Polo - Demarcus Christmas, DT, Florida State
159. Buffalo (from OAK) - DJ's left nut - Justin Hollins, EDGE, Oregon
160. Seattle - BossChief - Chris Slayton, DT, Syracuse
161. Baltimore - Tambaberry - Isaiah Prince, OL, Ohio State
162. Houston - CoMoChief - Darwin Thompson, RB, Utah State
163. Chicago - Rain Man - Cole Tracy, K, LSU
164. Philadelphia - Chief Northman - Michael Jackson, CB, Miami
165. Indianapolis - staylor26 - Beau Benzschawel, OG, Wisconsin
166. Dallas - Chargem - Sutton Smith, EDGE, Northern Illinois
167. LA Chargers - Sfeihc - Marquise Blair, S, Utah
168. Kansas City - DJ's left nut - Mark Fields, CB, Clemson
169. New Orleans - htismaqe - Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame
170. LA Rams - Hoover - Terry Beckner, Jr. DT, Missouri
171. Cleveland (from NE) - The Franchise - Ben Burr-Kirven, LB, Washington
172. NY Giants (COMP) - Tambaberry - Lil'Jordan Humphrey WR, Texas
173. Atlanta (COMP) - BossChief - William Sweet, OT, North Carolina
174. Washington (COMP) - htismaqe - Penny Hart, WR, Georgia State

Round 6
175. Arizona – kccrow - Bryce Love, RB, Stanford
176. Pittsburgh (from Oakland) – chiefscafan - Alijah Holder, CB, Stanford
177. San Francisco – CoMoChief - Dru Samia, OG, Oklahoma
178. New Orleans (from NY Jets) – htismaqe - Cortez Broughton, DL, Cincinnati
179. Jacksonville – Chief Northman - Ricky Walker, DL, Virgina Tech
180. Arizona (from Tampa Bay) – kccrow - Kingsley Keke, DT, Texas A&M
181. New York Giants – Tambaberry - Kendall Sheffield, CB, Ohio St
182. Buffalo – DJ’s left nut - Trayveon Williams, RB, Texas A&M
183. Denver – Hoover - Andre James, OT/G, UCLA
184. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Antoine Wesley, WR, Texas Tech
185. Detroit – chiefscafan - Ryan Pope, OT, San Diego State
186. Green Bay – RealSNR - Mike Edwards, S, Kentucky
187. Atlanta – BossChief - Te’Von Coney, LB, Notre Dame
188. [Forfeited] Washington
189. Carolina – Chargem - Blace Brown, CB, Troy
190. Miami – The Franchise - Olisaemeka Udoh, OT, Elon
191. Cleveland – The Franchise - Hamp Cheevers, CB, Boston College
192. Minnesota – RealSNR - Rodney Anderson, RB, Oklahoma
193. Baltimore (from Tennessee) – Tambaberry - Carl Granderson, EDGE, Wyoming
194. Pittsburgh – chiefscafan - Zach Gentry, TE, Michigan
195. Baltimore – Tambaberry - David Long Jr., LB, West Virginia
196. Green Bay (from Seattle) – RealSNR - Isaac Nauta, TE, Georgia
197. Houston – CoMoChief - Jalen Jelks, EDGE, Oregon
198. New York Jets (from Chicago) – staylor26 - Albert Huggins, DT, Clemson
199. Philadelphia – Chief Northman - Jakobi Meyers, WR, North Carolina State
200. Cincinnati (from Dallas) – Rain Man - Preston Williams, WR, Colorado State
201. Indianapolis – staylor26 - Jahlani Tavai, LB, Hawaii
202. Los Angeles Chargers – Sfeihc - Cameron Smith, LB, USC
203. Kansas City – DJ’s left nut - Anthony Ratliff-Williams, WR, UNC
204. New Orleans – htismaqe - Brett Rypien, QB, Boise St
205. Los Angeles Rams – Hoover - Jon'Vea Johnson, WR, Toledo
206. Detroit (from New England) – chiefscafan - Terronne Prescod, OG, North Carolina State
207. New England – kccrow - Dontavius Russell, DT, Auburn
208. Washington – htismaqe - Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
209. Pittsburgh (from Arizona) - chiefscafan - Darryl Johnson, OLB/DE, North Carolina A &T
210. Tampa Bay (from Philadelphia) – Sfeihc - Sheldrick Redwine, S, Miami
211. Minnesota – RealSNR - Drew Sample, TE, Washington
212. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Dax Raymond, TE, Utah State
213. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Easton Stick, QB, North Dakota State
214. San Francisco – CoMoChief - Jamal Peters, CB, Mississippi State
215. Cincinnati – Rain Man - Bobby Okereke, LB, Stanford
216. Kansas City – DJ’s left nut - Saquon Hampton, S, Rutgers

Round 7
217. Tampa Bay - Sfeihc - Ryquell Armstead, RB, Temple
218. Kansas City (from SF) - DJ's left nut - Stanley Morgan Jr, WR, Nebraska
219. NY Jets - staylor26 - Iosua Opeta, OG, Weber State
220. Oakland - Marco Polo - Dakota Allen, LB, Texas Tech
221. Pittsburgh (from TB) - chiefscafan - Ugochukwu Amadi, S, Oregon
222. NY Giants - Tambaberry - Jazz Ferguson, WR, Northwestern State
223. Cleveland (from JAX) - The Franchise - Khari Willis, S, Michigan State
224. Philadelphia (from DEN) - Chief Northman - Lamont Gaillard, C, Georgia
225. Cincinnati - Rain Man - Matt Gay, K, Utah
226. Detroit - chiefscafan - Tommy Sweeney, TE, Boston College
227. Buffalo - DJ's left nut - Corey Ballentine, CB, Washburn
228. Green Bay - RealSNR - Shaq Calhoun, G, Mississippi State
229. Washington - htismaqe - Devine Ozigbo, RB, Nebraska
230. Carolina - Chargem - Tyler Jones, OT, NC State
231. Detroit (from MIA) - chiefscafan - Jimmy Moreland, CB, James Madison University
232. Atlanta - BossChief - Hjalte Froholdt, OG, Arkansas
233. Miami (from CLE) - The Franchise - Dexter Williams, RB, Notre Dame
234. NY Giants (from MIN) - Tambaberry - DaMarkus Lodge, WR, Ole Miss
235. Miami (from TEN) - The Franchise - Tim Ward, DE, Old Dominion
236. Cleveland (from PIT) - The Franchise - Alex Bars, OG, Notre Dame
237. Oakland (from SEA) - Marco Polo - Martez Ivey, OT, Florida
238. Jacksonville (from BAL) - Chief Northman - Lukas Denis, S, Boston College
239. Houston - CoMoChief - Xavier Crawford, CB, Central Michigan
240. Chicago - Rain Man - Montre Hartage, CB, Northwestern
241. New England (from PHI) - kccrow - Karan Higdon, RB, Michigan
242. Indianapolis - staylor26 - Darius Slayton, WR, Auburn
243. Dallas - Chargem - Ronheen Bingham, DE, Arkansas State
244. Buffalo (from LAC) - DJ's left nut - John Cominsky, DE, Charleston
245. San Francisco (from KC) - CoMoChief - Iman Marshall, CB, USC
246. New Orleans - htismaqe - Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
247. NY Giants (from LAR) - Tambaberry - Gary Jennings, WR, WVU
248. New England - kccrow - Cole Holcomb, ILB, North Carolina
249. Minnesota (COMP) - RealSNR - Keesean Johnson, WR, Fresno State
250. Arizona (COMP) - kccrow - Anthony Johnson, WR, Buffalo
251. Arizona (COMP) - kccrow - Jordan Brailford, EDGE, Oklahoma St.
252. Minnesota (COMP) - RealSNR - Stephen Denmark, CB, Valdosta State
253. LA Rams (COMP) -Hoover - Nate Hall, OLB, Northwestern
254. New England (COMP) - kccrow - Nik Needham, CB, UTEP
255. Washington (COMP) - htismaqe - Malik Gant, S, Marshall
256. Arizona (COMP) - kccrow - Derwin Gray, OT, Maryland
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DJ's left nut 09:30 AM 03-28-2019
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I wouldn’t call myself a huge Sweat fan, but I think CP is a little too low on him.

Yea the consistency isn’t quite what you want it to be when you see the combine #’s, but he still put up 30 sacks in the last 2 years in the SEC.

I like the Danielle Hunter comparison that I saw. I’d be ecstatic if we came away with him or Ferrell.
You looked at the Tackles for Loss column, not sack. He still had 22.5 in 2 seasons but that's quite a bit different than 30.

Originally Posted by O.city:
I feel like I should like him more than I do. I don't know why I don't to be honest.

After seeing his combine numbers you'd think i'd like him more but it kind of went the other way. With those #s, why wasn't he more productive?
I mean he did have 17.5 sacks in 18 Power 5 games over his last two years. That's pretty damn productive.

But I still don't think I like him that much. For whatever reason I prefer Bryan Burns by a fair amount. Burns was even less productive but he looks more agile and more advanced on tape.

Sweat was pretty damn productive against high level competition and tested well, but he just looks stiff to me and I worry about that, especially at the cost of a trade-up. I mean if he were there at 29, sure - done. But he won't be so I have to like him a hell of a lot more than I do to justify that move.

Originally Posted by staylor26:
22.5 sacks in the last two years in the SEC is pretty fucking productive.
Stiiiiiiill lookin' at the wrong column...
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staylor26 09:34 AM 03-28-2019
DJ I already edited my post before you quoted me. The second one says 22.5 :-)

The point still stands. He was very productive and it was against the best of the best.
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DJ's left nut 09:37 AM 03-28-2019
Originally Posted by staylor26:
DJ I already edited my post before you quoted me. The second one says 22.5 :-)

The point still stands. He was very productive and it was against the best of the best.
Ah, I thought you meant he had 22.5 sacks in SEC play those last 2 years. I didn't feel like figuring out exactly how many he had but since he only had 17.5 in Power 5 play, I knew he didn't have that many in the SEC.

In either event - dude was pretty productive and I don't have a great explanation as to why I don't like him. He just doesn't pop when you watch him play for whatever reason.
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The Franchise 09:50 AM 03-28-2019
Wonder if Gary slides in the draft....if that's the guy we're looking to trade up for.
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O.city 09:52 AM 03-28-2019
Originally Posted by staylor26:
22.5 sacks in the last two years in the SEC is pretty ****ing productive.
Yeah, it is but I still feel like i'd like to see more but if he was that productive with those numbers he'd be in the top 5 locked.
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O.city 09:54 AM 03-28-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
You looked at the Tackles for Loss column, not sack. He still had 22.5 in 2 seasons but that's quite a bit different than 30.



I mean he did have 17.5 sacks in 18 Power 5 games over his last two years. That's pretty damn productive.

But I still don't think I like him that much. For whatever reason I prefer Bryan Burns by a fair amount. Burns was even less productive but he looks more agile and more advanced on tape.

Sweat was pretty damn productive against high level competition and tested well, but he just looks stiff to me and I worry about that, especially at the cost of a trade-up. I mean if he were there at 29, sure - done. But he won't be so I have to like him a hell of a lot more than I do to justify that move.



Stiiiiiiill lookin' at the wrong column...
See I like Burns a lot that dudes got bend for days. I think he's maybe a little more 34 OLB than DE because of his size, but I could be talked into it.
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O.city 09:55 AM 03-28-2019
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Wonder if Gary slides in the draft....if that's the guy we're looking to trade up for.
He's definitely one that I look at and just wonder why he wasn't better in college with those measurables. Maybe i'm expecting to much.
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htismaqe 09:57 AM 03-28-2019
I can tell you explicitly why I'm not big on Montez Sweat.

I live in B10 country. I only get to usually see nationally televised SEC games on NBC, which pretty much means Georgia, Alabama, or LSU every week. In other words, I only get to see the big games.

When you add in the bowl game, I actually didn't see much of Montez Sweat except during the pre-game hype. They talk about him being a beast and then the game comes on and he's invisible. I mean I'm realistic about college football - my Hawkeyes are a 2nd-tier team in the B10, which isn't even close to the SEC in terms of football.

And yet the Hawkeyes not only neutralized Montez Sweat, they made the entire Mississippi defense look slow and unathletic. A bunch of white guys took the top off of Johnathan Abram and company.

I want no part of Sweat. That's just me.
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O.city 09:58 AM 03-28-2019
I really worry that the Hill investigation goes into the draft and we end up with Hollywood.

I wouldn't hate it, but damn.
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htismaqe 10:00 AM 03-28-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
I really worry that the Hill investigation goes into the draft and we end up with Hollywood.

I wouldn't hate it, but damn.
The thing about Hollywood - I don't think he goes in the first round anymore.

If they took him, it would probably be later, so it might be worth it. Lis Franc injuries are no joke. I would be really surprised if he doesn't slide hard.
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The Franchise 10:02 AM 03-28-2019
I don't see the need to take a WR in the 1st round if Hill is gone. This class has a metric shit ton of WRs that Andy could work with. I don't want DK and I'm not spending #29 on a WR when there are better players there.
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htismaqe 10:06 AM 03-28-2019
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I don't see the need to take a WR in the 1st round if Hill is gone. This class has a metric shit ton of WRs that Andy could work with. I don't want DK and I'm not spending #29 on a WR when there are better players there.
I think they'd be better served to trade up in the 2nd to take Isabella than to trade up in the 1st for someone.
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O.city 10:06 AM 03-28-2019
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I don't see the need to take a WR in the 1st round if Hill is gone. This class has a metric shit ton of WRs that Andy could work with. I don't want DK and I'm not spending #29 on a WR when there are better players there.
If Hollywood checks out, he's the best WR in the class for my money. As htis said though, lis francs are no joke.

Hill is just so unique. Fuck this really sucks.
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RunKC 10:08 AM 03-28-2019
Hollywood Brown is 5’9” 166 lbs and has a Lis franc injury

He’s as fragile as it gets. I’d be so pissed off if we were stupid enough to draft that guy at 29.
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DJ's left nut 10:12 AM 03-28-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I think they'd be better served to trade up in the 2nd to take Isabella than to trade up in the 1st for someone.
Isabella is tiny, man.

I know a cottage industry has sprung up around the 'hey, just because he's white doesn't mean he's just a slot guy!!" narrative, but the white thing isn't the problem.

The 'being 5'9'', 190 lbs' thing is the problem.

And I get that Hill's not that much taller and he may not be heavier, but the dude is built like a tank and that's how he can take some of the really solid shot's he taken while trying to extend himself to catch balls. Isabella isn't that sturdy; he'll get broken in half.

And you just cannot overstate how dynamic Hill's speed is. Isabella is fast, no doubt, but he's not Hill. And he's not quite as quick. You can't just take someone that's a little smaller, a little slower and a little less sudden than Hill and say "eh, he's close, he'll do..."

The combination of all those things may just make him a complementary player at best. Maybe he overcomes all that but there are a lot of WRs in this draft I'd take over him.
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