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Nzoner's Game Room>*.* NEW- 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*
penguinz 01:44 PM 08-13-2014
I guess we filled up the old one... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=280149

Welcome to 2014! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

No one else started it so here it is!

**From the 2013 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.
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KC native 08:31 AM 11-11-2014
Originally Posted by Silock:
Need some help. Every time I bench, no matter what angle, I feel like I'm getting a pinched nerve in my hand from the pressure of the bar on my palm. I don't want gloves, but is there some kind of pad I can use to alleviate the pressure on my palm? I don't want to drop the bar on my face because my hand failed to maintain grip.
Yes, it's called a maxi pad.
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Buehler445 09:07 AM 11-11-2014
Originally Posted by Count Zarth:
I'm not eating a goddamned thing on the left. The chicken is touching BOTH the bread and the lettuce.
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el borracho 10:24 AM 11-11-2014
We're approaching the end of the calendar year... anyone still on track to reach your fitness goals for 2014 and/or set any personal records? I know Luv is working up her deadlift. Anyone else?
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Titty Meat 10:45 AM 11-11-2014
I was trying to get down to around 200 started dieting end of August. That's not going to happen by the end of the year but i'm almost to 230. Which isn't bad considering where I started.
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luv 10:49 AM 11-11-2014
I've also still got 7% body fat to lose to reach my goal.
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Aspengc8 12:47 PM 11-11-2014
Originally Posted by Silock:
Need some help. Every time I bench, no matter what angle, I feel like I'm getting a pinched nerve in my hand from the pressure of the bar on my palm. I don't want gloves, but is there some kind of pad I can use to alleviate the pressure on my palm? I don't want to drop the bar on my face because my hand failed to maintain grip.
Does it hurt if you try 'false grip' as well?

Also try using Fat Grips. They increase the surface area that the force is applied to, so it might not irritate that area of your hand.

We're approaching the end of the calendar year... anyone still on track to reach your fitness goals for 2014 and/or set any personal records? I know Luv is working up her deadlift. Anyone else?

Not on track for any of my fitness goals. Just trying to maintain a somewhat healthy diet, and try to get a bit stronger each week while being the best parent & husband that I can be. I thought I would have more time to train, but with 2 little ones now, training comes in spurts.
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Silock 01:50 PM 11-11-2014
False grip works. I'm just afraid of the bar slipping forward out of my hands.
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penguinz 08:02 PM 11-11-2014
Originally Posted by Silock:
False grip works. I'm just afraid of the bar slipping forward out of my hands.
Fat grips or versa grips.
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Fire Me Boy! 09:25 AM 11-13-2014
I'm posting this here as a form public accountability, support, and because there isn't a weight loss thread since 2013. I have kind of a long story, so bear with me. tl;dr at the bottom.

Back in April when I was hospitalized with pneumonia, the bit of info I didn't share previously is the pneumonia caused renal failure. I've had kidney troubles in the past, and pneumonia knocked them out. Docs put me on temporary dialysis hoping that would give them enough of a rest to heal, but they didn't. So from April to July I was on hemodialysis three days a week. In July, I transitioned to peritoneal dialysis, which allows me to do it at home while I'm sleeping.

However, PD has its own challenges, including that the fluids I use for dialysis are sugar based. So every day, all day, I have 2L of 1.5-2.5 percent dextrose solution in my peritoneal cavity, meaning without eating anything, I absorb 200-500 extra calories every day.

Because the dialysis washes protein out of my system, I have to get 10+ ounces of high quality protein daily, as well as 3000+ mg of potassium every day, while limiting phosphorus to under 2000 mg daily. I also have a fluid restriction of around 2500 mL.

I've done very well for the past four months maintaining my weight. But now I'm being evaluated for a kidney transplant, and while I'm only a couple pounds over their threshold for transplant evaluation, they're going to evaluate me anyway. But before I can get activated on the list, I need to lose 38 pounds or more.

It's going to be 5-7 years before they'd evaluate me anyway. But the dialysis will make it more difficult than it would be otherwise. I can't lift weights - because of the added pressure from the fluid in my peritoneal cavity, weight lifting puts me at higher risk of a hernia. My weight restriction is 15 pounds.

This will mostly be changing eating habits to more lean proteins and light cardio (severe asthma is my biggest hurdle with cardio). I'm open to suggestion.

I'm 5'10", 282. I'm open to suggestions. Please don't tell me "calories in vs. calories out," because while the math is sound, it's just not that simple for me. I'm very frustrated already, and that doesn't help me.

tl;dr: I'm a fatass, and I need to lose 40 pounds through diet and light cardio. I'll check in on whatever slow progress I make.
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NewChief 09:32 AM 11-13-2014
Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!:
I'm posting this here as a form public accountability, support, and because there isn't a weight loss thread since 2013. I have kind of a long story, so bear with me. tl;dr at the bottom.

Back in April when I was hospitalized with pneumonia, the bit of info I didn't share previously is the pneumonia caused renal failure. I've had kidney troubles in the past, and pneumonia knocked them out. Docs put me on temporary dialysis hoping that would give them enough of a rest to heal, but they didn't. So from April to July I was on hemodialysis three days a week. In July, I transitioned to peritoneal dialysis, which allows me to do it at home while I'm sleeping.

However, PD has its own challenges, including that the fluids I use for dialysis are sugar based. So every day, all day, I have 2L of 1.5-2.5 percent dextrose solution in my peritoneal cavity, meaning without eating anything, I absorb 200-500 extra calories every day.

Because the dialysis washes protein out of my system, I have to get 10+ ounces of high quality protein daily, as well as 3000+ mg of potassium every day, while limiting phosphorus to under 2000 mg daily. I also have a fluid restriction of around 2500 mL.

I've done very well for the past four months maintaining my weight. But now I'm being evaluated for a kidney transplant, and while I'm only a couple pounds over their threshold for transplant evaluation, they're going to evaluate me anyway. But before I can get activated on the list, I need to lose 38 pounds or more.

It's going to be 5-7 years before they'd evaluate me anyway. But the dialysis will make it more difficult than it would be otherwise. I can't lift weights - because of the added pressure from the fluid in my peritoneal cavity, weight lifting puts me at higher risk of a hernia. My weight restriction is 15 pounds.

This will mostly be changing eating habits to more lean proteins and light cardio (severe asthma is my biggest hurdle with cardio). I'm open to suggestion.

I'm 5'10", 282. I'm open to suggestions. Please don't tell me "calories in vs. calories out," because while the math is sound, it's just not that simple for me. I'm very frustrated already, and that doesn't help me.

tl;dr: I'm a fatass, and I need to lose 40 pounds through diet and light cardio. I'll check in on whatever slow progress I make.
I would recommend intermittent fasting... but I'm not sure if it would work (or be healthy) for you with your medical condition and the daily treatments you have to take.

Silock will be able to help you out a lot more with whether the option will work for you or not.
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loochy 09:37 AM 11-13-2014
Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!:


This will mostly be changing eating habits to more lean proteins and light cardio (severe asthma is my biggest hurdle with cardio). I'm open to suggestion.

I'm 5'10", 282. I'm open to suggestions. Please don't tell me "calories in vs. calories out," because while the math is sound, it's just not that simple for me. I'm very frustrated already, and that doesn't help me.
These go hand in hand.

In the end it IS that simple.

The thing is that you need to figure out how many calories you are using in a day.

Meticulously count your calories and evaluate your intake based on that count. Since it sounds like you can't do much cardio, you are going to have to be extra tight on your food choices and you have the added obstacle of your nutrient requirements and restrictions.

It sounds like you need a nutritionist/training coach to help you get this thing started and get organized with a real plan.
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Fire Me Boy! 09:39 AM 11-13-2014
Originally Posted by loochy:
in the end it IS that simple.

the thing is that you need to figure out how many calories you are using in a day.

meticulously count your calories and evaluate your intake based on that count.
What part of "please don't do that" wasn't clear? I even asked nicely. This isn't helpful. Kindly fuck off.
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loochy 09:44 AM 11-13-2014
Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!:
What part of "please don't do that" wasn't clear? I even asked nicely. This isn't helpful. Kindly **** off.
So don't figure out how much food you need? Just eat everything I guess? :-)

It's going to take some work and experimentation to figure out how much you need. With your special requirements, it's going to be extra challenging. I really recommend getting with a nutritionist/coach in person to get this thing nailed down in the beginning.
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Fire Me Boy! 09:45 AM 11-13-2014
Originally Posted by loochy:
These go hand in hand.

In the end it IS that simple.

The thing is that you need to figure out how many calories you are using in a day.

Meticulously count your calories and evaluate your intake based on that count. Since it sounds like you can't do much cardio, you are going to have to be extra tight on your food choices and you have the added obstacle of your nutrient requirements and restrictions.

It sounds like you need a nutritionist/training coach to help you get this thing started and get organized with a real plan.
Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!:
What part of "please don't do that" wasn't clear? I even asked nicely. This isn't helpful. Kindly **** off.
I responded before you edited. I know you're trying to be helpful, and some of this is. But I implore you, because we've been through this before, please stop with the calories in vs. calories out mantra with me. It isn't helpful. I get it. That's why I'm here. Help. Saying "calories in vs. calories out" does. not. help. I'm already very frustrated by the whole ordeal, it's emotionally exhausting, and very stressful. The solution I absorb simply by staying alive is the equivalent of drinking 2-4 cans of regular soda, completely empty calories. And I still have to eat just to stay semi-healthy.
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loochy 09:48 AM 11-13-2014
Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!:
I responded before you edited. I know you're trying to be helpful, and some of this is. But I implore you, because we've been through this before, please stop with the calories in vs. calories out mantra with me. It isn't helpful. I'm already very frustrated by the whole ordeal, it's emotionally exhausting, and very stressful. The solution I absorb simply by staying alive is the equivalent of drinking 2-4 cans of regular soda, completely empty calories. And I still have to eat just to stay semi-healthy.
That's what I'm saying about the special requirements! It's going to be really tight if you have to consume that sort of stuff. I don't know what your schedule is with this "solution", but it's surely jacking with your insulin levels. The timing of when you eat and what you choose to eat at what time will make a difference in your fat storage as well. A nutritionist should be able to determine when your insulin spikes happen and how long it takes for them to tail off.

Like I said, I'm not sure of your schedule with the solution so that will make a difference. Is it once a day? 4 times a day? It would probably be advisable to avoid fatty foods following the solution administration.
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