Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
They gave me the money to control. It was supposed to be a group effort on making the lineups. Hootie went off and did his own thing with our money. Couldn't work with anyone. I pulled the plug and turned it back over to the group.
Originally Posted by O.city:
Some one give me cliff notes of what happened here
Here's my attempt at a brief synopsis (but don't guarantee this to be 100% accurate):
Hootie notices that the people winning big on Fanduel are submitting a large number of varied lineups rather than just doing 1-2 per week and suggests to the forum that a bunch of guys pool their money and cooperate on their picks. 50 guys pitch in $100 each to join.
Rather than take their time to develop a real strategy, Hootie kind of went all LLEEEROOOYYYY JEEENNNNKINS the first week and lost 2/3rds of what they started with.
At some point, other members get pissed that Hootie's just doing it all rather than cooperating and boot him out of a leadership role. He also broke some sort of rule that everyone agreed upon from the beginning about not submitting lineups outside the group.
Hootie posts this thread in the Lounge to complain about it. Somewhere in here, Hootie is also a dick to Flopnuts to the point that he gets banned for the 5719th time. There was some other drama here involving the same crap he was banned for years ago, but it's all a bit fuzzy what really went down.
Originally Posted by NewChief:
That's such the definition of someone with a gambling problem. They can't stick to the system because they want to play their hunches, gut feelings and such. A system isn't "fun" and doesn't feed their addiction in the same way the randomness of playing hunches does.
Interesting:
Originally Posted by :
The Psychology of Compulsive Gambling
By Dr. Keith Ablow
January 05, 2012
Having treated many people for compulsive gambling, I have identified two psychological issues a significant percentage seem to share. Being aware of these dynamics has helped them fight their addiction and has helped their loved ones support their recovery.
There may well turn out to be a neurological or even genetic reason that helps explain why compulsive gamblers can’t seem to resist visiting casinos, buying lottery tickets or staying glued to Internet gaming sites. Parts of their brains that respond to pleasure—including what is called the limbic system—may react particularly strongly, for example, to the intermittent and unpredictable reward of winning. But the emotional forces at the root of an addiction to gambling should be overlooked.
I have noticed that, for many addicts, gambling reproduces painful and unexamined aspects of their childhoods and make casinos, convenient stores with Keno and Internet lottery sites feel very much like going home.
First, gamblers often seem to come from homes where they couldn’t predict whether the environment would be peaceful and happy, or filled with panic, despair or anger. They may have had alcoholic parents who were sometimes sober and loving, but sometimes drunk and punishing. They may have had parents who could be kind to one another and to them, but could also become verbally or physically abusive. They may have had siblings who struggled with illnesses like severe diabetes or asthma—that meant that they sometimes seemed to be in perfect health, then needed to be rushed to emergency rooms.
When the good things about home—like shelter and food and birthday parties—become linked in a person’s mind with a seesaw of unpredictable highs and lows, then they may be forever drawn to other places that spark uncontrollable waves of pleasure and pain.
Second, compulsive gamblers want to believe that they are “liked” or “loved” by the people, places (including gaming websites) or even the machines that are actually hurting them. As obvious as it may be to me, many of my patients have needed to admit that their bookies or blackjack dealers, along with the folks who park their cars and smile at them at the doors of casinos, don’t really like them at all, but are looking to take their money away. Often, admitting that this is the case requires admitting that they weren’t loved in a pure way during childhood—or, in some cases, ever, by anyone. If a father keeps telling his daughter how much he loves her, when he really intends to manipulate her and control her, that girl can actually believe she’s got “friends” bringing her drinks at slot machines.
I will always remember how a bookmaker I knew described the “customers” he serviced. “They’re sick, degenerate addicts,” he told me. “Their whole lives are a tragedy, because they think I’m actually on their side, that I believe in them. They think I want them to win. They really do. It’s incredible.” What he really wanted was to keep them weak and dependent on him. Doesn’t that sound a lot like a manipulative, disempowering parent?
This combination of having experienced little control, lots of chaos and too little genuine caring during childhood (even if there were lots of false displays of it), can make a building with no windows and lots of machines and tables where you might get “lucky” feel like home. And almost everyone wants to “go home,” even when home was a pathological place. Because almost everyone is willing to fool himself or herself into believing—during childhood—that home is a good place. Very few 5-year-olds or 8-year-olds run away from home—and mean it. Many more should.
Breaking the cycle of compulsive gambling, in the people I speak of, requires resolving to no longer be complicit in their own destruction. It means realizing that the people and places they thought embraced them, were actually shaking them down—all the way back to childhood. These are sobering realizations that can come with all the force of a freighter adrift that slams into shore. And that’s the point. When someone decides to no longer be hostage to tides of emotion outside themselves that drag them here and there, there is always a moment of impact when everything becomes perfectly, painfully clear.
Dr. Ablow is the author of "Inside the Mind of Casey Anthony." He
is a psychiatrist and member of the Fox News Medical A-Team. Dr. Ablow
can be reached at info@keithablow.com. His team of Life Coaches can be
reached at lifecoach@keithablow.com.
Originally Posted by Pennywise:
Why do you have to have so many lineups?
There are two core types of games. 50/50 types where you just want to beat half of the people playing. These you generally choose chalky, safe-type players.
GPP's these are the tourneys you can win millions in but you're up against 500k people. Regular Joe's who enter once or twice are mostly going to pick safer top-10 type QBs but the person who won this week very well may have had Kirk Cousins as his starting QB. He put up top QB numbers but he's far cheaper to buy which means you have opportunity to buy more expensive rb/wr's, etc.
Nobody puts Kirk Cousins in their first lineup or their 10th :-) You gotta put in a lot to get to playing him or say Josh McCown when he exploded a couple weeks back
Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage:
There are two core types of games. 50/50 types where you just want to beat half of the people playing. These you generally choose chalky, safe-type players.
GPP's these are the tourneys you can win millions in but you're up against 500k people. Regular Joe's who enter once or twice are mostly going to pick safer top-10 type QBs but the person who won this week very well may have had Kirk Cousins as his starting QB. He put up top QB numbers but he's far cheaper to buy which means you have opportunity to buy more expensive rb/wr's, etc.
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Disagree, there were very clear rules set up before hand and even when we tried to have a civil discussion about it he was 100% Hootie being a dick and telling everyone to fuck off.
Gee, like this has never happened on CP before ? I mean I don't l now all the details but if this was the driving force then IMHO somebody has abused their power, I've seen far worst crap than this.
Originally Posted by DaFace:
1. Hootie posts this thread in the Lounge to complain about it. Somewhere in here, Hootie is also a dick to Flopnuts to the point that he gets banned for the 5719th time. There was some other drama here involving the same crap he was banned for years ago, but it's all a bit fuzzy what really went down.
Is he permabanned or just banned while everyone cools off?
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Here's my attempt at a brief synopsis (but don't guarantee this to be 100% accurate):
Hootie notices that the people winning big on Fanduel are submitting a large number of varied lineups rather than just doing 1-2 per week and suggests to the forum that a bunch of guys pool their money and cooperate on their picks. 50 guys pitch in $100 each to join.
Rather than take their time to develop a real strategy, Hootie kind of went all LLEEEROOOYYYY JEEENNNNKINS the first week and lost 2/3rds of what they started with.
At some point, other members get pissed that Hootie's just doing it all rather than cooperating and boot him out of a leadership role. He also broke some sort of rule that everyone agreed upon from the beginning about not submitting lineups outside the group.
Hootie posts this thread in the Lounge to complain about it. Somewhere in here, Hootie is also a dick to Flopnuts to the point that he gets banned for the 5719th time. There was some other drama here involving the same crap he was banned for years ago, but it's all a bit fuzzy what really went down.
I am not going to stick up for Hootie on the entire going LLEEEROOOYYYY JEEENNNNKINS thing in FanDuel forum cause that is pretty much the truth.
From what I have read in there though the bringing up old shit that Hootie was banned for before with CC was all on Boss. I didn't even really see much from Hootie on that at all but I might have missed it.
