I don’t really disagree with that, but MJ didn’t have to deal with a 70 win team because he made the 70 win team.

Why does MJ not having to beat GS a knock on him or a plus for Lebron?
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He didn’t have to consistently beat an all time great team to win a championship, which if they stay together is what golden state looks to be shaping up as.

I think Klay bounces soon though
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Again, he WAS the all-time great team.

It’s bullshit and there’s no way around it.

Also, this just accounts for the last two years. What about before? The Thunder had them down 3-1 and they lost the Finals, so up until last year Lebron hasn’t had to “consistently beat an all-time great team”.
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He did many times. The Celtics use to own him.
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This is kinda stupid. By this logic, Golden State isn't that good because they don't have to beat Golden State.
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So Jordan was on an all time great team. Imagine if lebron was on an all time great team
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That’s pretty hyperbolish. I didn’t say they weren’t that good.
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So they weren’t a great team until Durant got there?
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Now the Heat weren’t one of the best teams ever? If he handled his business against the Mavs we look at that team a lot differently. He doesn’t get a pass for having one of the worst Finals performances ever by an all-time great.

:-)

Also, you’re just going to ignore that Jordan made them an all-time great team? That is just ****ing retarded. Let’s not act like the Bulls ever even make the Finals without MJ.
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I’m saying they were clearly beatable unlike now.
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Calm down.

No one is giving him a pass for anything. This is why this topic is so stupid to have. Too many emotions and dumb bullshit.

The bulls were pretty good without Jordan. Obviously, without him they weren’t nearly as good as they were with him, but they won 55 and finished 3rd in the east. That’s not bad
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So they’re unbeatable now?
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The Heat led by Bosh/Wade couldn’t have won 55 games and got bounced in the 1st with Lebron out of the league? Shit that team probably has a better shot at making it out of the East.
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It sure does look like it. I didn’t fault Lebron for losing to them last year and I won’t this year.

I will say that there’s at least 1 or 2 other teams in the West that would beat the Cavs this year anyways. Another reason why that excuse is horseshit.
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This is where you’re getting as bad as the lebron guys the other way.

Sure there are a few other good teams in the West. They could beat the cavs, sure.

But it’s not definite especially if lebron goes full badass in the finals like he has the past few, I don’t think the rockets would be beating them
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