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Direckshun 12:25 AM 01-03-2017
First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.
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Buehler445 10:36 PM 07-24-2017
Originally Posted by milkman:
Piss poor clock management is not a Smith related problem for Reid.
Agreed.

However, Reid has more flexibility and capacity to overcome bad clock management if he has a QB that can throw the ball downfield.

A guy would have to be Richard Petty if he was racing a Camaro in a minivan, but far less efficient in the management if a guy is racing a Camaro in a Ferrari.
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Quesadilla Joe 11:26 AM 07-28-2017

I covered Warren Moon from from Day 1 for 10 years. At his 3rd practice, Watson reminds me of Moon n his first camp in 1984. So smooth!

— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) July 28, 2017


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staylor26 01:55 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:

3rd career practice with no pads :-)
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RealSNR 02:40 PM 07-28-2017
Journalist... NFL talent evaluator... eh, same thing, right?
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Tribal Warfare 02:55 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Journalist... NFL talent evaluator... eh, same thing, right?
Just drumming up the brand
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Quesadilla Joe 10:11 AM 08-05-2017

this is what gets you excited for Kizer's future. climbs the pocket, fires a bullet to the sideline where only his receiver can grab it pic.twitter.com/cTm3s4xC39

— Jordan Zirm (@clevezirm) August 5, 2017



rookie quarterbacks aren't supposed to be able to navigate the pocket like this. and Ricardo Louis should've caught this ball pic.twitter.com/Dz1sM4HjbS

— Jordan Zirm (@clevezirm) August 5, 2017


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Direckshun 10:16 AM 08-06-2017
Awesome. Good for Deshone. I hope he works out for Cleveland.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 12:05 PM 08-06-2017
Good to see young QB's doing well. Let's hope that this current crop can one day bypass the Manning/Brady/Rodgers/Rapin'-love fest that the NFL is hell-bent on shoving down our throats.
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Quesadilla Joe 06:44 AM 08-10-2017

talking to Bears & Chiefs & watching Watson, it could turn out to have been a great QB class. Some teams in need may 2nd guess themselves

— Joe Banner (@JoeBanner13) August 10, 2017


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DJ's left nut 09:39 AM 08-10-2017
Originally Posted by Direckshun:
Awesome. Good for Deshone. I hope he works out for Cleveland.
Yep; pulling for Kizer.

But Kizer's warts weren't physical. They weren't even schematic. They were the intangibles. So what you could see in Kizer is the kind of hot start and early plateau you got from someone like Josh Freeman (or even Jay Cutler).

It shouldn't surprise anyone if he's the better of the 4 QBs right out of the box because he comes from a relatively advanced system and has a world of arm talent. But if his intangibles are a problem, he won't grow much beyond that.
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The Franchise 09:51 AM 08-10-2017
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Yep; pulling for Kizer.

But Kizer's warts weren't physical. They weren't even schematic. They were the intangibles. So what you could see in Kizer is the kind of hot start and early plateau you got from someone like Josh Freeman (or even Jay Cutler).

It shouldn't surprise anyone if he's the better of the 4 QBs right out of the box because he comes from a relatively advanced system and has a world of arm talent. But if his intangibles are a problem, he won't grow much beyond that.
He's got all the physical tools. I'm interested to see how he does in Cleveland when they lose most of their games this year. Does he rise above? Or does he go in a shell and start sucking with them?

I think Reid would have been a good fit for Kizer as a coach. I wouldn't take him over Mahomes now though.
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RunKC 10:00 AM 08-10-2017
Joe Banner
Joe Banner @JoeBanner13
talking to Bears & Chiefs & watching Watson, it could turn out to have been a great QB class. Some teams in need may 2nd guess themselves
7:33 AM · Aug 10, 2017

**** NFL experts. "oh my god this class sucks wait for next year!". God I'm glad we finally pulled the damn trigger.

I will maintain what I said before the draft: this is a good QB class and I would have been happy with many of these guys. They all have ability and some warts.

I hope Mahomes, Watson, Kizer and Trubisky all turn into good starters for a long time so we can shit on these "experts" every year.
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O.city 10:45 AM 08-10-2017
When good offensive coaches wanted and or drafted these guys, it was the first sign for me that the draft guys may have been off a bit.
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staylor26 11:39 AM 08-10-2017
Originally Posted by O.city:
When good offensive coaches wanted and or drafted these guys, it was the first sign for me that the draft guys may have been off a bit.
Yup, great point

And most of them wanted our boy :-)
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Quesadilla Joe 06:18 AM 08-27-2017

It takes constant attention to gauge the quality of a QB, it doesn't take long to gauge his talent. Browns haven't had a guy this talented. pic.twitter.com/i0v3PS1biz

— Cian Fahey (@Cianaf) August 27, 2017


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