KU ***** Official 2018-2019 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ***** - Page 4

Originally Posted by DanBecky:
I could see why Malik is though. He's over college, he used KU as a springboard to the NBA. He's betting on himself and is 100 percent committed. It was always the plan, no matter how the season turned out for him. He played his way into a better draft position with his hot postseason.

I see what you're saying though. Selfishly I'd love to see Malik back just to have some stability in the backcourt and someone the young guys can lean on.

Yeah, I totally get why he's doing it and that he feels 100% ready - it's just nice having the option to be able to retreat if things don't pan out. Vick will probably need that backdoor, even though Self is publicly doubting that. Probably a play for Romeo.
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Originally Posted by SuperChief:
Yeah, I totally get why he's doing it and that he feels 100% ready - it's just nice having the option to be able to retreat if things don't pan out. Vick will probably need that backdoor, even though Self is publicly doubting that. Probably a play for Romeo.

Oh yeah, I think so too. Kinda like he did with Brannen Greene. Just a little nudge out the door with some encouraging words to the media.
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It appears Vick truly is done @ KU. Hopefully he can underperform on the biggest stages in the NBA.

j/k - good for him. All the best, Vick.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/a...tion-turn-pro/
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It’s actually pretty smart for Vick to go.

Unless he has a crazy Frank Mason or Devonte Graham senior year, he’ll only hurt his stock by coming back.

Vick’s game has enough flaws, that less is more when considering his draft stock.

His best hope is that the scouts drool at his athletic ability and streaky shooting.

If he came back, I would guess that his flaws would be further exposed as he tries to assert himself as a senior playmaker.

Probably a good call to go while he’s a little more of a high-upside unknown.
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051:
It�s actually pretty smart for Vick to go.

Unless he has a crazy Frank Mason or Devonte Graham senior year, he�ll only hurt his stock by coming back.

Vick�s game has enough flaws, that less is more when considering his draft stock.

His best hope is that the scouts drool at his athletic ability and streaky shooting.

If he came back, I would guess that his flaws would be further exposed as he tries to assert himself as a senior playmaker.

Probably a good call to go while he�s a little more of a high-upside unknown.

$1 million a year starting this year or next year overseas... not a whole lot of difference, except he'll be getting paid here in a couple months vs Not. Take the money, son.
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Originally Posted by SuperChief:
It appears Vick truly is done @ KU. Hopefully he can underperform on the biggest stages in the NBA.

j/k - good for him. All the best, Vick.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/a...tion-turn-pro/

Vick has a 5 year old daughter? And he's 21?

His mom's comment about not being selfish and giving someone else a chance seems a bit odd. Makes it sound like staying 3 (or 4) years is too long.
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Well if this doesn't get Langford to come to KU I don't know what would.
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Looking at the composite score that makes up draft classes and if Romeo chooses KU we will have the #2 class in the country and that doesn’t include De Sousa, The Lawsons, Moore. Suddenly it makes sense why we'd be #1 in the country in the preseason polls.
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Man, not sure what to think about next year's team.

Sounds like all of the potential and talent in the world though.

And the team will be deeeeeeeep.
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...sketball-probe

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Adidas executive James Gatto handed more criminal counts in college basketball probe

Federal prosecutors in New York on Tuesday added additional criminal counts to the indictment of Adidas executive James Gatto, alleging for the first time that he conspired to provide cash payments to the families of former basketball players at Kansas and NC State.

The superseding indictment also alleges that Adidas consultant Merl Code and Christian Dawkins, a runner for former NBA agent Andy Miller, conspired with Gatto to commit wire fraud and pay $100,000 to the father of Louisville recruit Brian Bowen.

Gatto, Code and Dawkins were among 10 men arrested in late September following the FBI's clandestine investigation into bribes and other corruption in college basketball. They are scheduled to go on trial at U.S. District Court in New York in October.

The new indictment alleges Gatto and another unidentified Adidas consultant conspired to provide at least $90,000 to the mother of a former Kansas player between October 2016 and November 2017, and at least $20,000 to the legal guardian of a second player who committed to the Jayhawks in August 2017.

Sources told ESPN's Jeff Goodman that the first Kansas player is former five-star recruit Billy Preston, who did not appear in a game for the Jayhawks this past season, before turning pro because of eligibility concerns. Preston announced his commitment on Nov. 18, 2016.

A federal indictment released on Tuesday alleges the payments were made to ensure the players signed with Kansas and then inked endorsement deals with Adidas once they turned pro. The indictment says the payments were concealed from the university and NCAA.

The indictment says Gatto and others concealed payments to the first Kansas player by transferring money to an AAU team controlled by the unidentified Adidas consultant. Among the noted payments, prosecutors say the consultant delivered $30,000 to the player's mother at a hotel room in New York on Oct. 31, 2016, and another $20,000 in cash at a hotel room in Las Vegas on Jan. 19, 2017. The consultant also wired $15,000 to the player's mother on June 14, 2017.

In August 2017, the indictment alleges, the second Kansas player's legal guardian informed the consultant that the player had received illicit payments to attend a school sponsored by one of Adidas' rivals. The guardian told the consultant that the student-athlete was more interested in attending Kansas, but would need to repay payments from the rival apparel company in order to do so.

The second player announced he would enroll at Kansas on Aug. 30, 2017, according to the indictment, and on Sept. 11, 2017, Gatto was informed by the unidentified Adidas consultant that he would need to make "another $20,000 payment" to the player's guardian to help the student-athlete "out from under" the deal to sign with the other school.

The only Kansas player who committed on Aug. 30, 2017 is Silvio De Sousa, who is from Angola, attended IMG Academy and joined the Jayhawks in late December. De Sousa averaged 8.8 minutes in 20 games, and scored seven points and grabbed seven rebounds in 10 minutes in the national semifinal loss to Villanova.

Kansas released a statement later Tuesday: "Earlier today, we learned that the University of Kansas is named as a victim in a federal indictment. The indictment does not suggest any wrongdoing by the university, its coaches or its staff. We will cooperate fully with investigators in this matter. Because this is an active investigation, it is not appropriate for us to comment further at this time."

The indictment also alleges that Gatto and others conspired in 2015 to funnel approximately $40,000 from Adidas to the father of a player who was "widely considered the top high school recruit in the state of North Carolina and who had played for an [Adidas-sponsored] AAU team" to ensure that he signed with the Wolfpack and signed an apparel deal with Adidas once he turned pro.

The unidentified player committed to NC State in September 2015, but wasn't happy with his decision and was considering decommitting about a month later, according to the indictment. Gatto and the unidentified Adidas consultant agreed to make a $40,000 payment to an unnamed NC State coach, who would then deliver it to the player's parent, the indictment alleges. The payment was concealed from NC State officials and the NCAA, according to prosecutors.

The indictment says the player enrolled at NC State for the 2016-17 season and entered the NBA draft in June 2017.

NC State released a statement on Tuesday, saying that in September 2017 the school's compliance staff "contacted former basketball coaches asking whether they had any knowledge of or involvement in any activity related to the allegations coming from the U.S. Attorney's Office. Former staff questioned stated they had neither any knowledge nor involvement."

Mark Gottfried was the coach at NC State at the time the payment was alleged to have occurred. He was fired after the 2016-17 season and has since been named coach at Cal State Northridge.

The university's statement concluded, "NC State will continue to fully cooperate with the U.S. Attorney's Office and keep the NCAA updated throughout this investigation."

Dennis Smith Jr., who sources told ESPN is the unidentified player, committed to NC State in September of 2015. He left Raleigh after his freshman season and is currently a rookie guard for the Dallas Mavericks.

The superseding indictment released on Tuesday also includes details of schemes to funnel $100,000 to Bowen's father and $150,000 to the family of an unidentified high school player being recruited by Miami. Those allegations were included in the original indictment against Gatto, Code and Dawkins.

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KU held Preston out when every other major university with a player on the list that came out earlier like Bagley and Ayton allowed their kids to play.
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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
KU held Preston out when every other major university with a player on the list that came out earlier like Bagley and Ayton allowed their kids to play.

The big one is De Sousa if they deem him ineligible going forward. I was really looking forward to watching him progress.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
The big one is De Sousa if they deem him ineligible going forward. I was really looking forward to watching him progress.

That would seriously suck. Though if this were only between the guardian and Adidas, SDS should be fine. If the NCAA does anything, there will be a hell of a lot of players declared ineligible at every level of college basketball. I mean, Wichita State's Van Vleet got money according to the list that came out earlier. If a player with his low ranking (on coming out) got cash, then it's pretty wide spread.
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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
That would seriously suck. Though if this were only between the guardian and Adidas, SDS should be fine. If the NCAA does anything, there will be a hell of a lot of players declared ineligible at every level of college basketball. I mean, Wichita State's Van Vleet got money according to the list that came out earlier. If a player with his low ranking (on coming out) got cash, then it's pretty wide spread.

The wording of the indictment indicates KU is a "victim" of a shoe company & the parents/guardians; so I'm not sure what actual blow back would hit KU at this point. It's entirely possible that the NCAA could vacate any games De Sousa played in & take away the Final Four banner I suppose.

But, I agree - if the NCAA is going to go hard at KU, a lot a schools should be worried.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
The big one is De Sousa if they deem him ineligible going forward. I was really looking forward to watching him progress.

So did they know something about this and thats why they kept Preston off the court? Instead of that fender bender?

See if I got this right.......

DeSouza's guardian in Florida took $20K from a shoe company. The he wanted to go to Kansas, they wanted the money back? Did DeSouza know?

It says the university or coaches didn't know. So does that mean they are off the hook for any possible penalties?
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