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I currently drive a Prius hybrid. Its the best of both worlds with an internal combustion engine and an electric motor. It may be ugly as hell, but you can't argue with 50+ MPG.
We have a VW Sports Wagon manual transmission TDI that gets ~48 mpg. The diesel will last forever. Verse a battery car that might last for 100k miles with limited range?
We go +500 miles between refueling.
No EV yet.
For eco folks, where does the electricity to charge the car come from? [Reply]
We have a VW Sports Wagon manual transmission TDI that gets ~48 mpg. The diesel will last forever. Verse a battery car that might last for 100k miles with limited range?
We go +500 miles between refueling.
No EV yet.
For eco folks, where does the electricity to charge the car come from?
Tesla's batteries are rated for 300-500k miles for what it's worth. And they're aiming for a million miles for their next gen battery.
As for the environmental impact, EVs aren't 100% clean. No manufacturing is. But they're better by a pretty significant margin, and I would prefer not to contribute to my city looking like this any more than I have to.
Originally Posted by DaFace:
There's truth to it, yes, but Tesla still has some of the highest satisfaction ratings in the industry. People care less about having a joint that's not perfect when the car is amazing to drive.
Musk said on Rogans podcast that the new model S will hit 60 before you’re through an intersection. That’s fucking insane. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Musk said on Rogans podcast that the new model S will hit 60 before you’re through an intersection. That’s ****ing insane.
Over 1000 HP and 0-60 in 2.5 seconds
90% less moving parts than an ICE.
Fuel cost for a year is 80% less an ICE
Once the autonomous thingy is nailed down , insurance rates on them should be significantly less.
In the end the cost of owning an EV is going to be 20% that of owning an ICE [Reply]
no and maybe, in the distant future. Have to make something more intriguing than what's currently offered though.
I like actually driving my manual transmission V8 Mustang. I don't merely treat as some tool to get me to work and back, it's more or less my companion. Don't see an electric car with a manual gearbox, or any sort of personality at all. [Reply]
Originally Posted by backinblack:
no and maybe, in the distant future. Have to make something more intriguing than what's currently offered though.
I like actually driving my manual transmission V8 Mustang. I don't merely treat as some tool to get me to work and back, it's more or less my companion. Don't see an electric car with a manual gearbox, or any sort of personality at all.
The personality of "ungodly fast acceleration" goes a long way. [Reply]
I currently drive a Prius hybrid. Its the best of both worlds with an internal combustion engine and an electric motor. It may be ugly as hell, but you can't argue with 50+ MPG.
As I see it, EV's have 3 major problems: low range, and lack of charging stations, and the time it takes for a full charge. Once those problems get solved I'll consider getting one, but I imagine that won't be for another decade.
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
For people like me who live in the middle of cities, I'm thinking that driverless cars will eventually obviate my need to own a car at all. I'll just step outside my door, whistle like a cowboy calling his horse, and a car will show up. Driverless cabs will be prowling around everywhere and it'll be cheaper and easier to use them than to own a car.
Most of the time, I'm sure that will be convenient and will work fine. But I don't trust it in an emergency.
Say you live on the southeast coast and a hurricane is coming in. These companies are all going to pull their cars out before they know the track of the storm because why would they risk their cars stuck in traffic and then getting damaged by the storm? Same with floods and fires. Better to lose a few days of renting the cars out then lose the cars to flooded streets.
How are you going to evacuate when it turns out the storm is bearing down on you? The cars aren't going to drive back into the storm. You think there are going to be enough government provided buses?
Or even something more mundane: there was a big sporting event or a music festival. Probably not economical to bring in a lot of extra cars from a long ways away just to give people one, one-way ride. But you suddenly whistle and no car shows up? What do you do? Walk home? Get a hotel room?
I don't trust the free market to solve these rare, one off, but still serious problems. And we aren't the type of country that would be likely to regulate them and force them to plan ahead and provide enough rides for everyone because that would cost them a few bucks more. Socialism. The horror!
So I would rather own my own car and know it is available to me 24/7 especially in an emergency that might never come up. But then again it might.
Just like I own a propane generator and make sure to keep a few of weeks food and water on hand... Nothing crazy like a year of dried food and concrete bomb shelter, but something plenty of people in Texas are probably wishing they had done... [Reply]