The same could be said for Toto, yet those guys played on some the most influential and popular albums of all time.
They played on and wrote the majority of Michael Jackson's "Thriller".
I can see your other points though.
Def Leppard pretty much begins and ends with "High and Dry" for me, the guys in Motley we're so fucked up during "Theater" I don't doubt your claim one bit, and GnR didn't sound like GnR after "Appetite". [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Um, Rod Morgestern from Winger was the drummer in Dixie Dregs.
Kip Winger was a big time session bass player and background singer before founding Winger.
Reb Beach played guitar on countless albums before Winger.
Paul Taylor was and still is a hit songwriter.
Say what you will about Winger but they most certainly did not lack talent.
What they lacked was modesty and chemistry. They were all individually talented musicians. Wasn't it Kip that did the stint with Alice Cooper? Together, they were AWFUL. They could have done something unique - they had the chance to put together some kind of fusion masterpiece. Instead they took the Paul Gilbert/Billy Sheehan route (Mr. Big :-)) and put out god-awful radio rock.
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
And to the contrary about Crue and Leppard, I know for a fact that on several of their albums, those guys didn't even play on them. And Leppard after Pete was fired was a Mutt Lange creation.
Yep. Yet another band that was good early and awful after circumstances changed. Started with fire and ended up cashing in.
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Oh, one more thing. Despite the popular misconception, Guns 'N' Roses wasn't Axl or Slash.
It was Izzy.
And yet another band that was good early and awful after circumstances changed. They had a good mix with Izzy and Slash. The more say Axl got in the creative process, the worse they got. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Raised On Riots:
I can see your other points though.
Def Leppard pretty much begins and ends with "High and Dry" for me, the guys in Motley we're so ****ed up during "Theater" I don't doubt your claim one bit, and GnR didn't sound like GnR after "Appetite".