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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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O.city 06:06 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
I'm still refreshing like crazy for the March 17th new cases. See if the dip is an anomaly or not. It's like waiting for the crop report in Trading Places.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/italy/
They’ve had 3 straight days of same number of new cases
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petegz28 06:07 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
I think some of the guessing on posted in here is still wrong according to the experts.
Dude number of cases is not the point. I think we know a shit ton of people are going to get it. Just like a shit ton get the flu.


You can't say the number of cases is the sole metric. The question is what does it mean if you do get it? Again, just like the flu.

Just because we have the same amount of people who may get it as Italy, does not mean we will have the same number of deaths, etc.
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petegz28 06:10 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
I'm still refreshing like crazy for the March 17th new cases. See if the dip is an anomaly or not. It's like waiting for the crop report in Trading Places.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/italy/
I would quit focusing on Italy and focus on the US. The number of cases and deaths are going to go up. But at this point we are at the lowest mortality rate we have been at since it started.

Most medical professionals I have talked too fully expect the number of cases to go up but that does not mean the mortality rate has to go up. It most likely will go down as we see more cases. And so far, cross our fingers, that has been the case. We were at a 2.5% mortality rate last week. we are now between 1.6%-1.7%.

The haunting reality of Italy is not the number of people getting it but the number of people dying from it.
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Titty Meat 06:12 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Dude number of cases is not the point. I think we know a shit ton of people are going to get it. Just like a shit ton get the flu.


You can't say the number of cases is the sole metric. The question is what does it mean if you do get it? Again, just like the flu.

Just because we have the same amount of people who may get it as Italy, does not mean we will have the same number of deaths, etc.
This isnt like the flu please educate yourself.
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petegz28 06:15 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
This isnt like the flu please educate yourself.
Please quit pretending I said it is. Educate yourself.
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Chief Roundup 06:15 PM 03-17-2020
http://www.kake.com/story/41906786/k...SdEf0sAq6De-4Y

WOW so all public schools in Kansas are closed for the rest of the school year.
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BWillie 06:17 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I would quit focusing on Italy and focus on the US. The number of cases and deaths are going to go up. But at this point we are at the lowest mortality rate we have been at since it started.

Most medical professionals I have talked too fully expect the number of cases to go up but that does not mean the mortality rate has to go up. It most likely will go down as we see more cases. And so far, cross our fingers, that has been the case. We were at a 2.5% mortality rate last week. we are now between 1.6%-1.7%.

The haunting reality of Italy is not the number of people getting it but the number of people dying from it.
Please show your work. How are you obtaining the current mortality rate? You know you cant use active cases that haven't run their course to either a recovery or a death, right?
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petegz28 06:19 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Please show your work. How are you obtaining the current mortality rate? You know you cant use active cases that haven't run their course to either a recovery or a death, right?
I get my numbers from the CDC, bro.

Right now we have a total of 109 deaths from a total of 6,439 total cases. And yes, you can. That's all you can do.

109/6439 =1.69%
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Kiimo 06:19 PM 03-17-2020
Way to completely ignore the important part of what he just said
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Titty Meat 06:19 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Please quit pretending I said it is. Educate yourself.
You literally compared it to the flu "a shit ton of people are going to get it just like a shit ton get the flu"

You do realize we have treatments for the flu there is no treatment for this and just because we might not have the death tolls of italy were still on the same trajectory for number of cases and that will put immense stress on our health care system paired with our already tanking economy this isnt good. Yet dumbassss like you keep making up arguments "it's just the flu" "it's not that bad" etc etc
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oaklandhater 06:21 PM 03-17-2020
Over half of France's 300 coronavirus ICU patients under age 60

https://thehill.com/changing-america...-patients-with


the flu doesn't put people under 60 in the icu for the most part.


This shit is bad.
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petegz28 06:22 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Please show your work. How are you obtaining the current mortality rate? You know you cant use active cases that haven't run their course to either a recovery or a death, right?
To elaborate even more, if we used only "closed cases" we would have a mortality rate of 51%.

Do you think 1 out of 2 people who get this are going to die?
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Titty Meat 06:23 PM 03-17-2020
�� #COVID19 — Coronavirus World Update

���� China 80,881 (+21)
���� Italy 31,506 (+3,526)
���� Iran 16,169 (+1,178)
���� Spain 11,826 (+1,884)
���� Germany 9,360 (+2,088)
���� S. Korea 8,320 (+84)
���� France 7,730 (+1,097)
���� USA 6,420 (+1,768)
���� Switzerland 2,700 (+370)
���� UK 1,950 (+407)
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petegz28 06:24 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
You literally compared it to the flu "a shit ton of people are going to get it just like a shit ton get the flu"

You do realize we have treatments for the flu there is no treatment for this and just because we might not have the death tolls of italy were still on the same trajectory for number of cases and that will put immense stress on our health care system paired with our already tanking economy this isnt good. Yet dumbassss like you keep making up arguments "it's just the flu" "it's not that bad" etc etc
Again, you are trying to spin what I said. Getting sick happens to people all the time, dude. It's the consequence of getting sick that people care about. Does it mean a stuffy nose or does it mean I am gonna die?

You are the one being a dumb ass trying to have it both ways.
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BWillie 06:24 PM 03-17-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I get my numbers from the CDC, bro.

Right now we have a total of 109 deaths from a total of 6,439 total cases. And yes, you can. That's all you can do.

109/6439 =1.69%
Why would you use new ongoing cases to find a mortality rate? SOME of those people are GOING TO DIE.

Yes, its currently artificially high because it first hit a nursing home in Washington but so far outside of China the case mortality rate has been higher than expected.
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