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Nzoner's Game Room>UPDATE: Ford to 49ers for a 2020 2nd round pick. Official.
Dante84 06:19 PM 03-12-2019

More trade news: The #Chiefs are deep in talks with the #49ers on a trade for star pass-rusher Dee Ford, sources say. Things have escalated and this could get done by the end of the night. Ford needs to work out a new contract with SF, which is a big piece of this.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 13, 2019



The trade is essentially agreed to — Ford for a 2020 2nd round pick. That assumes the #49ers get a deal done with Ford. https://t.co/g4tYK2tWFh

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 13, 2019

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Willie Lanier 09:49 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by cdcox:
He was near the top of the league in pressures normalized by pass rushing attempts. We traded a top 5 pass rusher for a next year 2nd. I would be ecstatic to trade a future second for a top five pass rusher.
I appreciate your input; out of curiosity who were the top 5 based on that model?
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MotherfuckerJones 09:49 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
The offsides is part of his deficiencies.

He's a ****ing moron. Tredadda nailed it a few posts earlier. He's undisciplined. Add that to all of his other shortcomings, and we arrive at the same conclusion: he's just not worth a longterm deal, and if you can ship him out before committing $15 million for one year of a tag contract, you do that ASAP.
The blind rat bastard even lined up offsides in the pro bowl. Fuck him
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JakeF 09:49 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Are you the fat kid in this old commercial?

Yes, that's me. You're so smart. It still doesn't change the fact that Veach sucks at trading.

If we wanted ammo to move up then the 49ers 2nd round pick this year would have been perfect. Too bad, so sad.
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DRM08 09:50 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Mother****erJones:
The blind rat bastard even lined up offsides in the pro bowl. **** him
Ouch. :-)
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cdcox 09:50 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by tredadda:
Except SF gave $88 million for a guy who is a huge injury risk. This has Houston or Berry written all over it.
Too risky.
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duncan_idaho 09:52 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama:
Hey genius, Ford's natural position is DE. Plus, Spag's system utilizes a LEO end that's a pass rush specialist more so than a run stopper. While he doesn't have protypical size, he is elite at rushing the passer.



Meanwhile in Spag's system the safety is often tasked with coverage responsibilities that are clearly the Honey Badger's weakness.

Hey, genius...

How is that going to help the Chiefs improve their leaky sieve run defense, which was made leakier by his weakness in run defense?

Taking a guy who can’t hold the edge as an OLB and making him a DE isn’t going to improve that.

Mathieu has had injury problems, sure. But the commitment is smaller and shorter.

A guy with his success as a slot corner in the recent past has some coverage skills. He may not be a deep safety specialist, but he’s versatile and can be used in less predictable ways.
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Tribal Warfare 10:01 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by cdcox:
If this happens and the pick works out, I’m good, but that is several things falling into place.
Montez Sweat seems to be the target if it's a 1st round passrusher if you go by the interviews at the combine
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arrwheader 10:01 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Ford was still the best player on defense and Houston was 3rd best behind Jones. We have lost 2 of our best players on D. Plus down a CB too. So yeah- we are worse at the moment. I am not sure how stating the obvious is whining like a bitch.


Does 2nd and 3rd best on shit you have taken in a year really mean anything?

31st ranked D.
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Rausch 10:03 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by JakeF:
Yes, that's me. You're so smart. It still doesn't change the fact that Veach sucks at trading.
Incorrect!
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-King- 10:09 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
What else would you call a DE/OLB who is a liability against the run and in pass defense?
I would call him a great pass rusher.
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-King- 10:11 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by tredadda:
You mean TM? He has played in 32 games over the last two seasons. What about Ford? He’s going to get owned in the NFL by LTs as a DE.
:-) What kept them from owning him as an OLB?
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BryanBusby 10:11 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
I would call him a great pass rusher.
Would you consider him greater than Chandler Jones?
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-King- 10:12 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
Would you consider him greater than Chandler Jones?
No.
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cdcox 10:13 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Willie Lanier:
I appreciate your input; out of curiosity who were the top 5 based on that model?
I can’t share the data but here are several of the top guys in alphabetical order:

Joey Bosa
Fletcher Cox
Aaron Donald
Dee Ford
Jerry Hughes
Chris Jones
Kabul Mack
Cameron Wake
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tredadda 10:13 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
:-) What kept them from owning him as an OLB?
The fact that he had more than a step before he engaged the LT. With his hand in the dirt he will have to get up and then get around the LT. As an OLB he was already standing. If it were the same thing then any good passrushing OLB could transition to DE with no drop off.
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