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Nzoner's Game Room>***The Official MMA Thread***
KcMizzou 08:18 PM 07-08-2010
Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)
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Sorter 12:04 AM 01-18-2016
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
How the hell did that judge give Cruz 4 and 5?
I could understand r4 (like I can understand Machida winning the first Shogun fight) but I have no idea how a judge could give r5 to Cruz.


These fucking judges are terrible.
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jd1020 12:08 AM 01-18-2016
That fight seems to throw that whole you have to beat the champ to take the belt thing right out the window. I wanted Cruz to win but I just couldn't see Cruz winning. Didn't think he did enough. Especially later to end the fight. 49-46 in favor of both fighters? Interesting....
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alnorth 12:08 AM 01-18-2016
I had 3 clearly for Cruz, 4 clearly for TJ, and I won't argue with 1, 2, or 5. Even within those very lenient and forgiving boundaries, two of the judges were still totally fucking bonkers.
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New World Order 12:11 AM 01-18-2016
I don't think I've ever seen a split decision where two cards were 49-46.
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GloryDayz 12:11 AM 01-18-2016
I still don't get it, it makes me wonder what instructions the judges get when asked to judge a fight. Evidently many of us are looking at something different than the judges are judging by.
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New World Order 12:12 AM 01-18-2016
I had TJ 3-2, but I could also see it going 3-2 Cruz.
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alnorth 12:24 AM 01-18-2016
Cruz's leg wasn't actually hurt by Dillashaw's kicks. He has plantar fasciitis, and hasn't kicked in camp for months.
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GloryDayz 09:30 AM 01-18-2016
Originally Posted by alnorth:
Cruz's leg wasn't actually hurt by Dillashaw's kicks. He has plantar fasciitis, and hasn't kicked in camp for months.
I'd still love to understand what the judges saw that we didn't. I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm just interested in understanding what they think matters and what they think matters less.

While I'm not lost on the art of fighting (years of wrestling and coaching wrestling), I still think that "backing up" needs to be factored in. While the opposite of riding time in wrestling (which I hate BTW), I think the amount of time a fighter spends backing-up should count against them. Much akin to fleeing does. So while I help no favor for either of the two, the constant backing-up "technique" will always lead me to not like that person as much.

What I think Cruz did do very well was take TJ down. So it's not like I didn't see him doing well, he was awesome at the takedown, but he backed-up so much I thought he was over the line and fleeing. And being the larger fighter, it's compounded a bit.

Anyway, congrats to Cruz, he evidently did some things the judges liked, and that's all that matters when the fight goes the distance.
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alnorth 01:04 PM 01-18-2016
This is hilarious

https://streamable.com/gs73

The guy who asked the question was Duane Ludwig, who is Dillashaw's coach. Thats why Dana smirked and the room laughed when he said "well, Mr. member of the media"
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GloryDayz 04:50 PM 01-18-2016
Originally Posted by alnorth:
This is hilarious

https://streamable.com/gs73

The guy who asked the question was Duane Ludwig, who is Dillashaw's coach. Thats why Dana smirked and the room laughed when he said "well, Mr. member of the media"
Pulling a move like that (unless planned and staged), it sounds like the TJ camp isn't too happy with the decision.
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alnorth 11:37 AM 01-21-2016
In the first 20 days of 2016, USADA has conducted 120 tests on UFC athletes
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Saul Good 11:41 AM 01-21-2016
Have any of the women ever been busted?
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alnorth 12:04 PM 01-21-2016
Originally Posted by Saul Good:
Have any of the women ever been busted?
With the UFC? The only time I ever heard was someone tested positive for MJ in competition in Texas, but that doesn't really count because it was positive under the absurdly strict, low threshold for a positive test that Texas uses, but would not have been a positive test in NV or under USADA.
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alnorth 03:17 PM 01-25-2016
Well, this is an unmitigated God Damn disaster. Werdum is out of UFC 196 due to injury. the UFC lost their super bowl weekend heavyweight championship fight less than 2 weeks before the event.

edit: lol, Werdum says he hurt both his foot and his back. 8 weeks ago, he posted this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/-dDgx8JJSc/
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alnorth 03:42 PM 01-26-2016
UFC 196 has been moved to FS1. Not sure yet if Hendricks is going to headline it.

Without the HW title fight, that was going to be an awful PPV card, but by the standards of free TV, thats a pretty good card.

edit: Hendricks-Wonderboy is the main event
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