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Nzoner's Game Room>2019 Free agency Thread
O.city 03:24 PM 02-05-2019
We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.

If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.

https://overthecap.com/
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Sassy Squatch 04:01 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
No.

Option 1) Eric Berry has $15 million cap hit in 2019, $8 million in 2020
Option 2) Eric Berry has $7 million hit in 2019, $8 million in 2020 (post June 1 cut)
Option 3) Eric Berry has $15 million cap hit in 2019, $0 in 2020 (Cut w/o June 1 designation)

I'm rounding there, but options 2 and 3 are clearly the better options. He didn't make option 1 (keep Berry this year, cut him next year) very clear.

And for what it's worth, I did know this already. That's why I keep saying that we need to stop talking about the damn dead money - it simply doesn't matter. Overall outlay over the next 2 years is what matters and with that in mind it is a NO. BRAINER. to cut him unless you're absolutely dead-ass certain he's gonna be healthy.

And I simply don't see any way anyone can be.
Ah. Completely misunderstood the tweet.
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Naptown Chief 04:02 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by ptlyon:
NSFW
Spoiler!
:-)
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htismaqe 04:03 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
That can't be right. If it's pre-6/1, all the rest of his bonus hits this year.
Yeah, I was completely misinterpreting the data. Sapho set me straight, I'm an idiot. LOL
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Iconic 04:03 PM 03-12-2019
if we don't cut him by march 15 we should fly banners to fire veach tbh
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Sassy Squatch 04:04 PM 03-12-2019
Bell and his agent have some massive egg on their face. Sounds like the Steelers offer last year is better than what he's getting now.
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htismaqe 04:04 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Iconic:
if we don't cut him by march 15 we should fly banners to fire veach tbh
I'd be careful with that. I doubt it's Veach's call.
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htismaqe 04:05 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Bell and his agent have some massive egg on their face. Sounds like the Steelers offer last year is better than what he's getting now.
No kidding? That's classic.
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Sassy Squatch 04:05 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Iconic:
if we don't cut him by march 15 we should fly banners to fire veach tbh
I think this one is above his head.
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Naptown Chief 03-12-2019, 04:05 PM
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saphojunkie 04:05 PM 03-12-2019
Basically a pre-June 1 cut means:

2019 - $15M cap hit (all bonus accelerated to this year)
2020 - free and clear
2021 - free and clear

Post June 1
this year:
2019 - $7M cap hit
2020 - $8M cap hit
2021 - free and clear

next year
2020 - $4M cap hit
2021 - $4M cap hit


The cap hit should only stretch over the year he's cut and the following year. It shouldn't last two three seasons.
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Iconic 04:06 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I'd be careful with that. I doubt it's Veach's call.
fine, the banners will simply tell him to grow some fucking balls
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St. Patty's Fire 04:06 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Bell and his agent have some massive egg on their face. Sounds like the Steelers offer last year is better than what he's getting now.
It’s not surprising to anybody but those who think RB is anything but the most interchangeable position in football.

Like, no one denying that you’re incredible, Bell, just that you play a position that doesn’t offer ton of value relative to what you were asking for.

He should consider himself lucky that he’s getting double digit offers.
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Sassy Squatch 04:07 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
No kidding? That's classic.
Steelers offer was something around 15 million AAV. Right now he's looking at maybe 11-12, at least according to rumors.
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ForeverChiefs58 04:09 PM 03-12-2019
Jane Slater
@SlaterNFL

I said “rumored to be” but can now confirm, at least in the market of 14M or more a year, per source. He wants to beat S Eric Berry’s number which is roughly 13M a year

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Marcus Mosher
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According to @SlaterNFL on NFL Network, Earl Thomas wants a deal of two-years, $30M.




Earl Thomas Looking for $14M Per Year

Former Seattle Seahawks safety Earl Thomas is one of the biggest names available in free agency this year. He's a six-time Pro Bowler and a three-time All-Pro, and those kinds of defenders do not become available often.

However, Thomas is also on the verge of turning 30 and has a recent injury history that will give some teams pause. He has finished two of the last three seasons on injured reserve with a broken leg.

Therefore, while it's hard to discount Thomas as a player, he does carry some risk. This, along with his desire to be the league's highest-paid safety, could be why he's still available after the opening day of the "legal tampering" period.

According to NFL Network's Jane Slater, Thomas is seeking a deal worth at least $14 million per year:

This figure isn't as outlandish as it might have seemed just a few days ago, even for an aging player with some injury concern. This is because Landon Collins—another player who received a deal over $80 million—is expected to earn $14 million per season on his new six-year deal with the Washington Redskins, per Spotrac.

Collins is just 25, but he's also a box safety who is coming off a partially torn rotator cuff. Thomas is an elite back-end safety who can possibly be had for that same yearly salary but with a much smaller overall investment.

Don't be surprised if Thomas gets the money he's looking for.
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saphojunkie 04:09 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Steelers offer was something around 15 million AAV. Right now he's looking at maybe 11-12, at least according to rumors.
The guaranteed money from the steelers was the sticking point. It was shit guaranteed money, with the contract designed to do exactly this: make it look like a great offer that he'd be dumb to refuse.

I would have taken it, because you can also - I don't know - get hit by a car on the sidewalk and have nothing. He gambled on himself, and I would imagine whoever signs him will be whoever guarantees the most, not whose top dollar is the highest.
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staylor26 04:10 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Iconic:
if we don't cut him by march 15 we should fly banners to fire veach tbh
:-)

Yea let’s start talking about firing the guy that got us Mahomes before he even has a full draft.
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