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Nzoner's Game Room>2019 Free agency Thread
O.city 03:24 PM 02-05-2019
We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.

If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.

https://overthecap.com/
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BryanBusby 03:49 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
Lmao
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03:49 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
That improves the chances that he leaves.
Im still holding out hope that he doesnt
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Sassy Squatch 03:50 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
That improves the chances that he leaves.
Why? Wouldn't it be the opposite.
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Kiimo 03:50 PM 03-12-2019
How are we just now finding this out
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pugsnotdrugs19 03:51 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Why? Wouldn't it be the opposite.
I don’t think so.

2020 savings are the same no matter what. But they can save money this year if they do the June 1.

The only incentive to waiting to release him until next year would be more savings next year. Not the same amount.
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htismaqe 03:52 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
DJ laid it out quite clear for you earlier dude but you won't listen and you have admitted you won't change your mind so what's the point?
Nothing in what DJ said provides evidence that he can repeat 2018 in 2019 other than "it's a contract year". Sorry. I asked for evidence. In other words, show me a time when Dee Ford had a great performance and proved he could repeat it.

His entire career is on then off then on then off. Unless he breaks precedent (and it's entirely possible he can) 2019 is destined to be a down year.

Does that mean he's worthless? No. It only means that I'm not willing to bet $16M of cap space on something that has literally never happened.
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ptlyon 03:53 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by The Franchise:

NSFW
Spoiler!

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DJ's left nut 03:54 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Why? Wouldn't it be the opposite.
No.

Option 1) Eric Berry has $15 million cap hit in 2019, $8 million in 2020
Option 2) Eric Berry has $7 million hit in 2019, $8 million in 2020 (post June 1 cut)
Option 3) Eric Berry has $15 million cap hit in 2019, $0 in 2020 (Cut w/o June 1 designation)

I'm rounding there, but options 2 and 3 are clearly the better options. He didn't make option 1 (keep Berry this year, cut him next year) very clear.

And for what it's worth, I did know this already. That's why I keep saying that we need to stop talking about the damn dead money - it simply doesn't matter. Overall outlay over the next 2 years is what matters and with that in mind it is a NO. BRAINER. to cut him unless you're absolutely dead-ass certain he's gonna be healthy.

And I simply don't see any way anyone can be.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03:54 PM 03-12-2019

Among that haven't really been in it for ex-Steelers RB Le'Veon Bell: Bears, Colts, Ravens, Texans and Bills. Market's tough.

Only takes one, and as the price drops teams may re-enter. Right now, feeling is you might be able to get him at $11-12 million per.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) March 12, 2019

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htismaqe 03:57 PM 03-12-2019
First of all, isn't 2020 the last year of the CBA? Why would this apply now?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Option 3) Eric Berry has $15 million cap hit in 2019, $0 in 2020 (Cut w/o June 1 designation)
I don't know how accurate OverTheCap is but they have Berry's pre-June 1 hit as $15M in 2019 and $8M in 2020 (with an additional $4M in 2021).

If they designate him June 1st, it's $7M, $4M, and $4M respectively.
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The Franchise 04:00 PM 03-12-2019
Either way you look at it.....he needs to be gone this offseason.
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saphojunkie 04:00 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
First of all, isn't 2020 the last year of the CBA? Why would this apply now?



I don't know how accurate OverTheCap is but they have Berry's pre-June 1 hit as $15M in 2019 and $8M in 2020 (with an additional $4M in 2021).

If they designate him June 1st, it's $7M, $4M, and $4M respectively.
That just means that a pre-June 1 cut would be those amounts if the cut happened in those years. It doesn't mean all of those cap hits happen.

Pre-June 1 the cap hit is ONLY in that year. There is no carry over.
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htismaqe 04:01 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
That just means that a pre-June 1 cut would be those amounts if the cut happened in those years. It doesn't mean all of those cap hits happen.

Pre-June 1 the cap hit is ONLY in that year. There is no carry over.
That's kind of what I figured after looking at it again.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04:01 PM 03-12-2019
So are we keeping Berry or cutting him?
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DJ's left nut 04:01 PM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
First of all, isn't 2020 the last year of the CBA? Why would this apply now?



I don't know how accurate OverTheCap is but they have Berry's pre-June 1 hit as $15M in 2019 and $8M in 2020 (with an additional $4M in 2021).

If they designate him June 1st, it's $7M, $4M, and $4M respectively.
That can't be right. If it's pre-6/1, all the rest of his bonus hits this year.
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