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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Not really - it would seem to pretty much end the showdown.
Seriously, the Others can literally raise an army of the dead at will and in about 8 seconds it would appear. I'm not even sure why they couldn't 're-raise' their already defeated zombies, presuming that they still have limbs attached and what not.
They're essentially unbeatable unless you have air superiority. If Westeros doesn't get some dragons and the dragons aren't able to dispatch of the walkers, then that's the end. Remember, Dragon's aren't impossible to kill, just fairly difficult and with only 3 of them, it wouldn't take much to even neutralize that advantage (because again...unholy army of the living damned and what not).
There can't be ice dragons because that's just game over for humanity.
Would it be a mind blower if you found out the WW aren't as bad as you think they are? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pestilence:
So what's the shocker at the end of this season going to be? Jon dying and being brought back? Zombie Mountain?
I think they have always done the shocker the week before the end. Then they typically do some setup for the next season with the finale. I could be wrong though.
Whenever it is I think it will be Jon dying. I just hope they bring him back this season as well so that everyone doesn't freak out and leave the show. I fear a lot of the non book readers would. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRichard:
I think they have always done the shocker the week before the end. Then they typically do some setup for the next season with the finale. I could be wrong though.
Whenever it is I think it will be Jon dying. I just hope they bring him back this season as well so that everyone doesn't freak out and leave the show. I fear a lot of the non book readers would.
Well if that were to happen...I'm assuming then that he'd be dying at the end of this upcoming episode. That way at the end of the final episode....he'll be brought back. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Not really - it would seem to pretty much end the showdown.
Seriously, the Others can literally raise an army of the dead at will and in about 8 seconds it would appear. I'm not even sure why they couldn't 're-raise' their already defeated zombies, presuming that they still have limbs attached and what not.
They're essentially unbeatable unless you have air superiority. If Westeros doesn't get some dragons and the dragons aren't able to dispatch of the walkers, then that's the end. Remember, Dragon's aren't impossible to kill, just fairly difficult and with only 3 of them, it wouldn't take much to even neutralize that advantage (because again...unholy army of the living damned and what not).
There can't be ice dragons because that's just game over for humanity.
What I've read says ice dragons were even larger than the Valyrian type. It would certainly make things a shit ton hairier.
But it seems to me the Valyrian dragons will be the end of this threat. Unless the wights pull some bows and arrows out of their asses, how would they even touch the dragons? They could just swoop down raining fire over them at every pass.
They say Balerion the Black Dread could swallow a mammoth whole. That's a big fucking dragon. If Drogon, Rhaegon and Viserion get anywhere near that big they'll be unstoppable given what we've seen from the walkers up until this point.
How do you think the whites will get over/through the wall? I'm going to bet that they have that horn. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
What I've read says ice dragons were even larger than the Valyrian type. It would certainly make things a shit ton hairier.
But it seems to me the Valyrian dragons will be the end of this threat. Unless the wights pull some bows and arrows out of their asses, how would they even touch the dragons? They could just swoop down raining fire over them at every pass.
They say Balerion the Black Dread could swallow a mammoth whole. That's a big ****ing dragon. If Drogon, Rhaegon and Viserion get anywhere near that big they'll be unstoppable given what we've seen from the walkers up until this point.
How do you think the whites will get over/through the wall? I'm going to bet that they have that horn.
Fire arrows and pitch could slow the WW army down, even thin their numbers, but someone needs to get to Dragonstone ASAP and round up as much obsidian as possible. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
Why do you think that? And how do you propose the white army gets past the wall?
When Jon and Sam were out scouting with Mormont they found all the dragon glass buried with a horn which Sam kept. It may have been one of RR Martin's tricks but I think it is the one everyone is looking for.
I think one way or another the horn gets blown and the wall comes down. Not sure how. [Reply]
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Jon found a horn along with all the dragonglass, he gave it to Sam, who took it to Oldtown.
What about the horn that the Wildlings had? Or did that just happen in the books? The Horn of Joramun. I know in the books that Melisandre burned it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRichard:
When Jon and Sam were out scouting with Mormont they found all the dragon glass buried with a horn which Sam kept. It may have been one of RR Martin's tricks but I think it is the one everyone is looking for.
I think one way or another the horn gets blown and the wall comes down. Not sure how.
I bet it's that little dipshit that hates the Wildlings. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ThaVirus:
What I've read says ice dragons were even larger than the Valyrian type. It would certainly make things a shit ton hairier.
But it seems to me the Valyrian dragons will be the end of this threat. Unless the wights pull some bows and arrows out of their asses, how would they even touch the dragons? They could just swoop down raining fire over them at every pass.
They say Balerion the Black Dread could swallow a mammoth whole. That's a big fucking dragon. If Drogon, Rhaegon and Viserion get anywhere near that big they'll be unstoppable given what we've seen from the walkers up until this point.
How do you think the whites will get over/through the wall? I'm going to bet that they have that horn.
Rhaegon and Viserion won't because they're raised in the pit. Remember, when Arya was looking at the skulls and noticed they got progressively smaller? We were told it was because the later generations were raised in a pit and as such couldn't grow to full size.
Drogon might get big, but Balerion was the biggest of the big, IIRC; seems pretty unlikely.
And ultimately we know that WWs can turn any creature, man or beast. An army of pissed off zombie eagles could probably fuck some stuff up pretty well. And I see no reason why they couldn't man arrows; they simply never had them. As they bring down more and more men and take their weapons, why couldn't they also take their bows, etc...?
Like I said, it just looks like the scales would tip way to far towards the Others if they got their own dragons. [Reply]
