Originally Posted by AustinChief:
True but pushing the antisemitism angle makes her either a) too lazy to find out what he actually said and the context of it or b) too stupid to understand it. Neither is excusable.
The context of what he said was that a recent antisemitism bill would enable law enforcement to arrest people for claiming Jews killed the Christ character. This is blatant misinformation. Why would Butker mislead impressionable students? Was he confused or misled?
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
You belief structure is subjective to the whims of society. Aka you lack moral conviction in your own beliefs. They basically come and go as society dictates.
So yeah,
I’m not tolerant of your weak convictions and subjective belief system. In fact I loath them. It’s the hallmarks of a weak man or woman.
Ok pal you sure pinned me down with the facts there.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
So with that distinction and the fact that he received a standing ovation, do you now understand the point that he was preaching to the choir?
Standing ovation doesn’t mean there was unanimous agreement. I’m sure you’ve read or listened to reactions from women in the audience who weren’t thrilled with the message.
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
Just reading through the most recent idk call it doz n posts, some are veering n that direction, imo
There’s two separate threads in DC for people to whine and complain about his religious/political beliefs, but a couple of these pansies just want to keep crying about it over here.
This thread is to talk about the best kicker in the NFL, the best kicker in Chiefs history, and the all time Super Bowl record holder for most FG’s and longest FG. If people can’t appreciate Butker, then they go fist the kicker who shall remain nameless’s old dirty bunghole.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
So with that distinction and the fact that he received a standing ovation, do you now understand the point that he was preaching to the choir?
All I'm saying his expressed views were not typical catholic views and not even the views of the nuns at the institution where he was speaking.
Originally Posted by Delano:
The context of what he said was that a recent antisemitism bill would enable law enforcement to arrest people for claiming Jews killed the Christ character. This is blatant misinformation. Why would Butker mislead impressionable students? Was he confused or misled?
Yes. Butker misunderstood the bill just like a huge number of others did. I won't give him a free pass for it but that's quite a bit different than accusing someone of antisemitism.
Make no mistake though, I'll call him out for being lazy for not doing his own research on that before putting it in his speech.
(Btw, he and others fail to realize the bill is the exact same wording as an executive order from years ago that is already being enforced. So basically, it's a giant nothing burger)
Originally Posted by Spott:
There’s two separate threads in DC for people to whine and complain about his religious/political beliefs, but a couple of these pansies just want to keep crying about it over here.
This thread is to talk about the best kicker in the NFL, the best kicker in Chiefs history, and the all time Super Bowl record holder for most FG’s and longest FG. If people can’t appreciate Butker, then they go fist the kicker who shall remain nameless’s old dirty bunghole.
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
Yes. Butker misunderstood the law just like a huge number of others did. I won't give him a free pass for it but that's quite a bit different than accusing someone of antisemitism.
Make no mistake though, I'll call him out for being lazy for not doing his own research on that before putting it in his speech.
I can see the perspective of both people here. Butker was making the case that ultra orthodox Catholicism is under attack and using all the evidence he could find - true or not. Ms. Schwartz felt Jews were being persecuted and interpreted Butker’s comments as false information against a bill that would have worked to protect Jews.
Both probably wrong and misled. I don’t think we should call either stupid because misinformation affects everyone.
Originally Posted by Delano:
I can see the perspective of both people here. Butker was making the case that ultra orthodox Catholicism is under attack and using all the evidence he could find - true or not. Ms. Schwartz felt Jews were being persecuted and interpreted Butker’s comments as false information against a bill that would have worked to protect Jews.
Both probably wrong and misled. I don’t think we should call either stupid because misinformation affects everyone.
Being outraged about something you don’t understand is arguably worse than misunderstanding the implications of a law
Originally Posted by kysirsoze:
All I'm saying his expressed views were not typical catholic views and not even the views of the nuns at the institution where he was speaking.
You mean those unmarried women with no kids? Weird :-)
