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Nzoner's Game Room>***The Official MMA Thread***
KcMizzou 08:18 PM 07-08-2010
Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)
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ArrowheadHawk 02:00 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
Ahh I remember now. I think it was more like I thought you were stupid for saying Rashad would beat Shogun.........
To each their own. But I still think Rashad can reclaim his belt. This however is not as stupid as thinking Brock is a great fighter.
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ArrowheadHawk 02:00 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by Shogun:
Splenda Rashad Evans? lol.
What does that mean?
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ArrowheadHawk 02:02 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Wow, Ortiz still a huge draw.


UFC 121 Purse Information
Brock Lesnar ($400,000) vs. Cain Velasquez ($100,000 + $100,000 win bonus)
Jake Shields ($75,000 + $75,000) vs. Martin Kampmann $27,000
Diego Sanchez ($50,000 + $50,000 win bonus) vs. Paulo Thiago ($18,000)
Matt Hamill ($29,000 + $29,000 win bonus) vs. Tito Ortiz ($250,000)
Gabriel Gonzaga ($67,000) vs. Brendan Schaub ($10,000 + $10,000 win bonus)
Court McGee ($15,000 + $15,000 win bonus) vs. Ryan Jensen ($10,000)
Patrick Cote ($21,000) vs. Tom Lawlor ($10,000 + $10,000 win bonus)
Mike Guymon ($8,000) vs. Daniel Roberts ($8,000 + $8,000 win bonus)
Sam Stout ($16,000 + $16,000 win bonus) vs. Paul Taylor ($16,000)
Chris Camozzi ($8,000 + $8,000 win bonus) vs. Dongi Yang ($8,000)
John Madsen ($8,000 + $8,000 win bonus) vs. Gilbert Yvel ($30,000)

UFC 121 Medical Suspensions
Patrick Cote 180 days - retina
Chris Camozzi, 60 days - left brow laceration
Dongi Yang, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Court McGee 180 days - possible broken hand; 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Ryan Jensen, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Gilbert Yvel, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Brendan Schaub, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Gabriel Gonzaga, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Tito Ortiz, 45 days (30 days of no contact)
Diego Sanchez, 180 days - possible wrist fracture
Paulo Thiago, 60 days - laceration
Jake Shields 180 days - bleeding in eye, blurred vision
Brock Lesnar 180 days - eye; 60 days - cheek laceration
Wow and Brock gets almost half a million to get his ass kicked.
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BigCatDaddy 02:06 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk:
Wow and Brock gets almost half a million to get his ass kicked.
I'm sure Mecca or Hamas could help me here, but I think he made quite a bit more in the WWE, of course he was away from home a lot more.
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Shogun 02:06 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk:
What does that mean?
Because calling himself 'Sugar' after Sugar Ray Robinson is laughable. His boxing is really not that great and all of that showboating bobbing and weaving he does is going to get him severely knocked out one day. He does more bobbing and weaving 20 ft away from opponents just to act, when in reality his boxing is sub-par at best. Splenda is a joke to use because his Boxing is really a cheap knockoff, not the real thing, not Sugar Ray at all.
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Shogun 02:08 PM 10-27-2010
Not bashing him, I just think his Boxing is WAYYYYY Over-rated. He's still a very good wrestler though and his boxing does what it does, he's great at setting up takedowns with them. I don't dislike him.

Just to Clarify
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ArrowheadHawk 02:10 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
I'm sure Mecca or Hamas could help me here, but I think he made quite a bit more in the WWE, of course he was away from home a lot more.
And that impresses me about as much as if he would have earned more money doing gay porn. In other words who gives a **** about the WWE once you hit puberty.
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TheGuardian 02:13 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by Shogun:
Because calling himself 'Sugar' after Sugar Ray Robinson is laughable. His boxing is really not that great and all of that showboating bobbing and weaving he does is going to get him severely knocked out one day. He does more bobbing and weaving 20 ft away from opponents just to act, when in reality his boxing is sub-par at best. Splenda is a joke to use because his Boxing is really a cheap knockoff, not the real thing, not Sugar Ray at all.
I want to see him and Page fight again once Page gets that ring rust out from this Machida fight. Rasahad was too scared to stand and trade with Page after all of that BS talking he did about how he was going to beat him down. I think Page at the top of his game destroys Rashad.
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ArrowheadHawk 02:14 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by Shogun:
Because calling himself 'Sugar' after Sugar Ray Robinson is laughable. His boxing is really not that great and all of that showboating bobbing and weaving he does is going to get him severely knocked out one day. He does more bobbing and weaving 20 ft away from opponents just to act, when in reality his boxing is sub-par at best. Splenda is a joke to use because his Boxing is really a cheap knockoff, not the real thing, not Sugar Ray at all.
Originally Posted by Shogun:
Not bashing him, I just think his Boxing is WAYYYYY Over-rated. He's still a very good wrestler though and his boxing does what it does, he's great at setting up takedowns with them. I don't dislike him.

Just to Clarify
The main reason I like him is the amount of growth he has shown in his career. He went from being a a wrestler only to knocking Chuck Lidell the fuck out.
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BigCatDaddy 02:15 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk:
And that impresses me about as much as if he would have earned more money doing gay porn. In other words who gives a **** about the WWE once you hit puberty.
LOL, you would be suprised.
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TheGuardian 02:15 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk:
The main reason I like him is the amount of growth he has shown in his career. He went from being a a wrestler only to knocking Chuck Lidell the **** out.
......and then being afraid to stand toe to toe with Rampage.......awesome growth.
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ArrowheadHawk 02:16 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
I want to see him and Page fight again once Page gets that ring rust out from this Machida fight. Rasahad was too scared to stand and trade with Page after all of that BS talking he did about how he was going to beat him down. I think Page at the top of his game destroys Rashad.
Thats funny considering he caught Rampage pretty good in round one of that fight. You being such an MMA expert you should appreciate a good game plan.
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Shogun 02:17 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
I want to see him and Page fight again once Page gets that ring rust out from this Machida fight. Rasahad was too scared to stand and trade with Page after all of that BS talking he did about how he was going to beat him down. I think Page at the top of his game destroys Rashad.
Well Page is definitely more fluid on his feet, thats for sure. I really can't understand why he decided to stick around at Wolfslair Aka I cant stop a takedown from a 12 year old girl, Glad he is back at Big Bear, Wolfslair was a horrible gym for him, and the decision really confused/pissed me off. He doesn't sound overly optimistic or confident in his new video



Below are the key things he says in the interview which really makes me feel like he, himself, has given up on fighting in many ways. He's not talking like the old Rampage, and he never once says anything about how he loves fighting but rather he's in it for the money.

"I'm like numb to everything. I'm tired of doing interviews. I'm just working man. I work for a living. The positive things is I get paid to fight. I see it strictly as an occupation, and that's how I see things.

The most depressing quote from Rampage:

"You asked me about titles and stuff. That's not where my mindset is right now."

But then again, he could just be playing mind games, because thats one thing Page has always loved to do, get into the head of his opponent, We will see if this is just one huge elaborate trolljob or not. But I love me some Page.
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BigCatDaddy 02:18 PM 10-27-2010
Originally Posted by TheGuardian:
I want to see him and Page fight again once Page gets that ring rust out from this Machida fight. Rasahad was too scared to stand and trade with Page after all of that BS talking he did about how he was going to beat him down. I think Page at the top of his game destroys Rashad.
Jackson has a lot of miles on that body and I'm not sure how dedicated he even is anymore. I guess we will find out soon enough.
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Shogun 02:19 PM 10-27-2010
Hey, I love me some Rashad, don't get me wrong, he's provided the world with a constant lulz bomb with this picture


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