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Nzoner's Game Room>*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***
Chiefspants 10:55 AM 04-05-2017
Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

Midish-Season Update (Royals 51-47, 2nd Wild Card, 1.5 GB of ALC):

We're halfway through 2017, and fittingly to the Chiefsplanet's 2017 Season Title, the Royals are all-in on what will likely be one final run with the current core. While many are worried the Royals will take a 2004 style tumble after this year, the farm system is hardly the barren wasteland it was during the Baird years. To see what's in the pipeline and what we have to look forward to, check out this exceptional list and analysis that Duncan put together of our system.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

While I had the honor of starting this thread this year, Duncan will always have a VIP pass to this OP, and can add more content at any time.

2017's Burning Questions Revisited:

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

We're buyers, baby.

In April, I argued that it would be a wise strategy for us to sell if we were 5 GB or worse, but that Dayton would likely add supplemental pieces for us to load up for another run if we were 1-2 GB. On July 24th, the Royals found themselves in sole possession of the 2nd wild card spot and 1.5 games back of the division. In April I said the Royals might pull the trigger on someone like Alex Cobb and resign Luke Hochevar, but since the Rays are also buyers and Luke's shoulder hasn't rebounded, this prediction hasn't come to fruition. Luckily, Dayton Moore again proved much more adept and creative than me by adding Trevor Cahill (good call, Duncan), Brandon Maurer and Ryan Buchter in a single trade. Giving us a solid starter to compete in 2017, and two relievers whom we will control through 2019 and 2021, respectively, keeping Moore's new vision through 2019-2020 intact. Moore has hinted that the Royals will continue to pursue the right deals if they're there, so the fun may not be over just yet. While we may not have the bullets to pull in a "star" like Cueto or Zo, Moore's adeptness may yet again net us what we need for another run in October.

2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

In April I asked if Gordo could at least set the table at a 265/325/425 clip and if Moose could deliver damage around a 265/335/500 clip for an entire year. This season Mr. Moustakas has been the prospect that was promised, delivering at a 277/307/568 clip as of this update. Gordo, on the other hand, has put up an unbelievably abysmal line thus far. But, if there is a silver lining, it's that Gordo has performed at a 246/311/432 line since June 1st, and if he can continue to perform near that mark, he will be more than a valuable asset at the bottom of the lineup while he continues to provide the best LF defense in the league.

3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

In April, I felt that despite the poor start, Royals bullpen would ultimately be "solid" this year, but the question was whether "solid" was good enough for Ned. I argued that the Royals needed Soria to bounce back and that Ned would need to start being strategic in his L/L and R/R matchups. While Ned has still made at times baffling and frustrating decisions with his starters (such as allowing Travis Wood to try to "get the win" and still insisting on sending Hammel out for the 6th, he's mostly done a good job).

MASH: Minor/Moylan - Alexander - Soria - Herrera (Credit to C3HIEF3S for the origins of the phrase) have cemented into reliable pieces, and now that Herrera is showing signs of stabilizing, our dumping of Wood, our call up Flynn, and the acquisition of Buchter and Maurer, the Royals have the potential to enter October with one of the best and deepest bullpens in the postseason.

4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

Cool-Whit, Boni, Mike ****ing Minor, and Alexander have come up huge thus far. Cool Whit is, incredibly, is second on the team in WAR and has more than replaced Zo's presence on the team. They, like the X-Factors on the 2014-2015 teams, have been critical cogs as we've raced back to contention, while Cool-Whit and Boni also have provided a rosier outlook for this team's future. It's worth noting that Salvador Perez and Jason Vargas has been beasts on offense and the mound (along with Sal providing his customary defensive excellence), but I am still a bit wary of Salvy's annual Yost assisted offensive drought as the team moves into August, along with Vargy regressing to his averages.

5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

Ouch, no, but the Royals shift to power-hitting in the juiced ball era looks like one that will pay off. Thankfully, Moss is showing signs of entering his seasonal hot streak where he becomes corn-fed Jesus for a month, and we'll need him hot to keep up with Cleveland down the stretch. While Jorge has been painful to watch in the majors, his scorching performance in AAA should give one a bright hope for the future. While some may disagree, I offer Moose, Hos, Gordo, and Duffy's struggles as exhibit A for why it is far too early to give up on Soler's potential.

Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

Ha! Not even close. However, like Soler, his progress in AAA is incredibly encouraging. With ceilings like Lindor and floors being Esky being thrown out there, it's hard not to be excited about his future.

The Picture Forward

There are many reasons to be excited, and not only for 2017. The Royals emergence of Cool Whit, Bonifacio, and Scott Alexander, and the fact that we have pieces like Salvador Perez, Danny Duffy, Kelvin Herrera, Jorge Soler, Ryan Buchter, Brandon Maurer Cheslor Cuthbert, and Raul Mondesi until at least 2019 should leave one feeling pretty optimistic. Re-up Moose or Hos (and heck, re-sign Dyson while we're at it), and suddenly this team looks very much like one that could compete for the indefinite future.

The Royals are all in again, buckle in and enjoy the ride.

April OP:

Spoiler!

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Chiefspants 12:05 PM 08-04-2017
Which pitcher would you prefer?


A. 53.2 IP, 2.52 ERA, 2.55 FIP, 58 K, 0.988 WHIP
B. 37.0 IP, 2.43 ERA, 2.91 FIP, 51 K, 1.189 WHIP
C. 43.0 IP, 2.30 ERA, 3.15 FIP, 35 K, 1.326 WHIP
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BigCatDaddy 12:06 PM 08-04-2017
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Which pitcher would you prefer?


A. 53.2 IP, 2.52 ERA, 2.55 FIP, 58 K, 0.988 WHIP
B. 37.0 IP, 2.43 ERA, 2.91 FIP, 51 K, 1.189 WHIP
C. 43.0 IP, 2.30 ERA, 3.15 FIP, 35 K, 1.326 WHIP
Just a guess

Minor
Wade
Holland

?
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penbrook 12:38 PM 08-04-2017
We face Paxton tonight!! Expect at least 5 runs off of him
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Chiefspants 12:44 PM 08-04-2017
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Just a guess

Minor
Wade
Holland

?
Close!

A. Minor
B. Wade
C. Alexander

Holland is actually having a vintage cyborg year. The only saving grace is that we could only afford either Holland or Minor, and Minor's put up a really impressive season as well.
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CaliforniaChief 12:58 PM 08-04-2017
I'd put Melky in LF, Bonifacio in RF, Moss at DH tonight.
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siberian khatru 01:30 PM 08-04-2017
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief:
I'd put Melky in LF, Bonifacio in RF, Moss at DH tonight.
Your wish ...

#Royals lineup vs. LHP James Paxton & Seattle.

Hear Ned Yost LIVE at 4:30 & join Vern at 6:00, inside The K, Gate A in LF. pic.twitter.com/HEwUwaKZTb

— 610 Sports Radio- KC (@610SportsKC) August 4, 2017


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penbrook 04:10 PM 08-04-2017
Jordan Bastian @MLBastian
Indians: LHP Boone Logan has opted against surgery. He's been shut down from throwing and is likely out for the rest of the season.
2:33 PM · Aug 4, 2017
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CaliforniaChief 04:21 PM 08-04-2017
Originally Posted by siberian khatru:
Your wish ...


Beautiful!

BTW, Laz Diaz bears a resemblance to Suge Knight.
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suzzer99 08:05 PM 08-04-2017
Serious question: how much has this run by the Royals improved your quality if life? I've got 10-20%.

Off the top of my head here are the ways:

I feel like there are more. I'm starting to think 20% may be a little low. I also may be a little buzzed. :-)
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Why Not? 08:11 PM 08-04-2017
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Serious question: how much has this run by the Royals improved your quality if life? I've got 10-20%.

Off the top of my head here are the ways:
  • Since 2013 I have a sport to really care about in the summer.
  • A bunch of old friends and I met up in KC for 2015 ALDS game 5, and watched the first two Toronto games. That we all got to see game 5 together is once in a lifetime.
  • I've watched every Royals postseason win from those two years, in their entirety, at least twice on youtube.
  • My parents and I stay in contact more when the Royals are playing.
  • The Royals and Chiefs are literally the only thing I can bond with my ultra-religious aunts on.
  • I stay in contact with old KC friends constantly when the Royals are winning.
  • Watching long-suffering Royals stalwarts like Rany and Sung-Woo get to experience this ultimate pinnacle has brought me a TON of joy.
  • A bunch of people in my generation have gotten to re-live the Royals glory years with their kids - something they never thought possible.
  • I'm kind of a hermit - so participating in threads like this, and Royals twitter is a good outlet for me.
  • I live in LA - I see Royals gear all the time now. It's fun to give the little "Royals!" and get the thumbs up.
  • It just gives me way way more joy than it should to know we stuck it douchebags like LaCanfora, Thor, Bautista and Donaldson.

I feel like there are more. I'm starting to think 20% may be a little low. I also may be a little buzzed. :-)

I agree with a lot of the above. I love wearing Royals stuff around AZ and when I go out of town. My wife and I did our first ever out of town trip sans kids for game 2 of the '14 series. We then did another just us trip to see the banner raised on opening night of '16.
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suzzer99 08:17 PM 08-04-2017
Yep - I came back for the Tigers series at the end of 2014. Then the WS 2014, opening day '15 and '16 and game 5 vs. the Stros.

My friend kept harassing me to come back for the wildcard game. And I was like - I just came back for the Tigers series. Life regrets.
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BWillie 08:46 PM 08-04-2017
Remember when all u guys said you liked these brokedick relievers from san diego?

Good times
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DaneMcCloud 09:05 PM 08-04-2017
Originally Posted by penbrook:
We face Paxton tonight!! Expect at least 5 runs off of him
Epic dipshiterry
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Sure-Oz 09:32 PM 08-04-2017
@rustindodd: Ned Yost said Salvador Perez was undergoing an MRI on his right side. This sounds slightly more concerning than previous side issues.
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Why Not? 09:34 PM 08-04-2017
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
@rustindodd: Ned Yost said Salvador Perez was undergoing an MRI on his right side. This sounds slightly more concerning than previous side issues.
Yep. I'm guessing best case scenario we get Backstreet Butera the rest of the weekend. Hope it's not worse than that.
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