Its extremely conventional. They deploy more 2 and 3 tight end sets with a fullback than any other team in the league. It is not complicated in the least, its the execution and getting everyone including the receivers to take pride in blocking that makes it successful.
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Ok, then you and I are in agreement. I'm not sure how anyone could watch the Browns play and think their ground game is anything but conventional.
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And two top tier backs running behind arguably the best O-line in the NFL (when healthy). They have the offense to play keep away from Chiefs, but easier said than done. And our defense.. well that’s a different story.
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Playing keep away from the Chiefs isn’t a thing.
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The Browns gave up a ton of points to the decent teams they played this season. All three of their division opponents hung 30 on them twice. 8 games in all giving up more than 30 against one of the league's easiest schedules. 5 of 7 games against playoff teams by my count? (Colts and Washington being the exceptions). Ball control with the run didn't seem to work during the regular season. Not against decent teams anyway.
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healthy is the key, our O-line has been beat up most of the year, we should be as healthy as we've been for this game in a while. What are you hearing on Conklin and Dunn, you may be able to play with those injuries, but not nearly at 100%?

Also Brown Fans, what is the best message board for Cleveland? There seems to be a plethora to choose from...
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To be fair, playing keep-away isn't really a thing at all. I really despise conversations about "time of possession" and "keeping (insert QB) off the field."

The only thing that those accomplish is reducing the sample size. That does help to create more weird situations where a mistake by the better team can sink them, but otherwise it's damn near irrelevant.

The only thing that really matters in a game is points per possession (and, relatedly, turnovers since those turn the figure to 0 for a drive instantly). You can hold the ball all day long, but if you end up settling for field goals while the other team gets TDs, you're still going to lose the game like 28-12 even if you run 10 minutes off of the clock per drive.
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I’m really happy for you Browns fans, BTW, and I do think the arrow is pointing way up for the years to come.

The answer to beating the Chiefs is putting up TDs, not FGs. While also playing good to great defense, because odds are they are going to score at least 30.

People talk about ball control a lot but it means nothing if the drives don’t end with 7 points. If the Chiefs and Browns both only have a low amount of let’s say, 8 possessions, and Cleveland really controls the clock... they still have to score more points per drive than Kansas City and that is just really hard to do. It’s why a lot of teams go for 4th downs when they normally wouldn’t against most teams.
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Insane that we basically typed the same post simultaneously.
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Our O Line vs their D Line is still my biggest concern if we are still beat up.
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I used to be on DawgBones, but it never had many people, most of my talking browns related is done on GroupMe, or on twitter.
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They had their top 4 WR's out and decide to throw the ball 50 times.

That's poor coaching, at least for that one game. You can't blame the loss on COVID when the team did NOTHING to make up for it. Instead they played to their weakness and got beat.

Quinnen Williams wasn't even playing and they didn't even try to run the ball.
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They DO have a ton of misdirection plays. They run the Shanahan/Kubiak WCO. There's not a ton of MOTION but there's absolutely misdirection. They also don't run the same blocking scheme from play to play - sometimes it's inside zone, sometimes it's stretch zone, some times it's power.

You're confusing razzle dazzle with unconventional. There's no dazzle dazzle in what they do, as compared to say the Chiefs, but there's only 3 or 4 teams in the league that mix up the running game the way they do.

It absolutely is unconventional.
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If they do something more than any other team in the league or do something no other teams do, that's the DEFINITION of "unconventional".

You guys know that, right?
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I thought the Chiefs played relatively well against the run the last part of the season. Same as last season. The LBs are a weakness but they were in 2019 also.
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