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Nzoner's Game Room>Schefter: Jalen Ramsey has asked for a trade
St. Patty's Fire 04:17 PM 09-16-2019
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...813515777?s=21
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Jerok 01:08 PM 09-21-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
If it’s an extension it will be that way for one year, so the point still stands. 2021 and beyond will be huge money
The point doesn't stand at all. Next year is still an open superbowl window with Mahomes on low cap space. 2021 starts the years where Mahomes salary really affects the team.

Why the hell would you ignore that difference?
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Dunerdr 01:11 PM 09-21-2019
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
Yeah, so I'm going to guess that "1st and 3rd" rumor was pulled straight outta the dog's ass, then.
The dog has a name, put some respek on it.
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Willie Lanier 01:15 PM 09-21-2019
Originally Posted by Jerok:
The point doesn't stand at all. Next year is still an open superbowl window with Mahomes on low cap space. 2021 starts the years where Mahomes salary really affects the team.

Why the hell would you ignore that difference?
I think the point he was trying to make was that we will probably extend him after this season, even with 2 more years of control, in an effort to both keep him happy by paying him his actual value, while also setting his salary in stone before lesser QBs drive up the market...

I could be wrong though
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pugsnotdrugs19 01:15 PM 09-21-2019
Yeah I would think that 2020 can be Mahomes’ 4th year salary + his signing bonus proration. Should be pretty low relatively speaking.

Then 2021 could be his 5th year + signing bonus proration.

Let’s go get Ramsey!!
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Easy 6 01:20 PM 09-21-2019
Seems Ramsey may have changed his mind, I wouldnt hold my breath on this
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RunKC 01:21 PM 09-21-2019
Originally Posted by Jerok:
The point doesn't stand at all. Next year is still an open superbowl window with Mahomes on low cap space. 2021 starts the years where Mahomes salary really affects the team.

Why the hell would you ignore that difference?
My post is in response to those who think we can keep Jones, get Ramsey and pay Pat. Of course there won’t be an issue in the short term.

The point is that it will be very difficult to have that work out once all these guys start making big money at the same time.
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smithandrew051 01:23 PM 09-21-2019
I’ve had a lot of people lie to me in my life: my parents (about loving me), my friends (about liking me), my wife (about our son being mine), etc.

But I have never had a Twitter dog lie to me. I feel so betrayed.
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BossChief 01:25 PM 09-21-2019
Signing bonus proration doesn’t kick in till the following year. Not year 1.

Mahomes cap hit for next year won’t change, unless he demands it to be a new deal and not an extension.

Which I highly doubt the kid does.
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BossChief 01:26 PM 09-21-2019
Originally Posted by tk13:
Veach is aggressive so I wouldn't be surprised if he made a move.

That said, do remember our QB is likely going to cost at least $30 million more against the cap next year.
Not unless he demands his current deal be ripped up and a whole new deal signed instead of just an extension. I’m expecting it to be an extension to his current deal with a big huge signing bonus that will spread, but keep his 2020 cap hit the same.
Originally Posted by RunKC:
My post is in response to those who think we can keep Jones, get Ramsey and pay Pat. Of course there won’t be an issue in the short term.

The point is that it will be very difficult to have that work out once all these guys start making big money at the same time.
Short term extensions and the new CBA will solve all of those concerns.
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pugsnotdrugs19 01:37 PM 09-21-2019
Originally Posted by RunKC:
My post is in response to those who think we can keep Jones, get Ramsey and pay Pat. Of course there won’t be an issue in the short term.

The point is that it will be very difficult to have that work out once all these guys start making big money at the same time.
And by the time it does start to get tough potentially, guys like Mathieu and Clark could be gone. That’s a lot of money that could come open.
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KChiefs1 01:46 PM 09-21-2019
Ramsey is 24 & is rated by many as the best CB in the NFL. A 4 year deal would be perfect. 4/60 would be ideal.

The prime positions on a football team are:

QB - Chiefs have the best.
LT - Pro Bowl-level
DL - Jones & Clark are Pro Bowl- level
CB - A huge Chiefs need...Ramsey would put the Chiefs among the best.

Is he worth a 1st & a 3rd? My vote is yes.
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RINGLEADER 01:53 PM 09-21-2019
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
Yeah, so I'm going to guess that "1st and 3rd" rumor was pulled straight outta the dog's ass, then.
Would you do:

2020 1st round pick
2021 2nd round pick
Reggie Ragland
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smithandrew051 01:54 PM 09-21-2019
Originally Posted by RINGLEADER:
Would you do:

2020 1st round pick
2021 2nd round pick
Reggie Ragland
I wouldn’t even have to think about it. Do that trade all day.
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ShowtimeSBMVP 02:03 PM 09-21-2019
This thread needs to die
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tredadda 02:06 PM 09-21-2019
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Ramsey is 24 & is rated by many as the best CB in the NFL. A 4 year deal would be perfect. 4/60 would be ideal.

The prime positions on a football team are:

QB - Chiefs have the best.
LT - Pro Bowl-level
DL - Jones & Clark are Pro Bowl- level
CB - A huge Chiefs need...Ramsey would put the Chiefs among the best.

Is he worth a 1st & a 3rd? My vote is yes.
No way he agrees to 4 years at $60 million. He will want more.
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