Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by Monticore:
I did but more in the sense that we are nearing the end of this shit , I just want to go back to normal and I think vaccines are going to get us there faster.
Yeah, exact same here. It just felt like a huge step in the right direction. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RedRaider56:
Was informed by my doctor this morning I need to wait another 4 weeks or so before getting the vaccine due to some current medication that I'm taking, which might lower the efficacy of the vaccine...sigh..
The CDC confirms what most people with common sense knew. Mask mandates help but it's a very very small difference. Around 1 percent in regards to cases and deaths.
Trip report from the LA Forum: In and out in like 25 minutes including the 15 they make you wait after, never got out of the car. Very impressed with the whole system - they could scale that up to just about any level - just need a parking lot, some attendants and some nurses. The covid testing part of the parking lot had like 3 cars waiting. The attendants were throwing the football around. So that’s a ton more space right there.
One reason it moved so well is they basically check nothing except your driver’s license. They never scanned my QR code to make sure I had an appt. The woman who checked me in saw my university employer card and commented on it. But I don’t think she was going to check. I’m fairly convinced anyone could just drive up, say they have an appt and they work in Education and Childcare, and get a shot. Which isn’t a bad thing imo - just get people through as fast as possible.
No symptoms so far. I had good luck getting appts between 4am and 6am for anyone in LA.
Originally Posted by suzzer99:
Trip report from the LA Forum: In and out in like 25 minutes including the 15 they make you wait after, never got out of the car. Very impressed with the whole system - they could scale that up to just about any level - just need a parking lot, some attendants and some nurses. The covid testing part of the parking lot had like 3 cars waiting. The attendants were throwing the football around. So that’s a ton more space right there.
One reason it moved so well is they basically check nothing except your driver’s license. They never scanned my QR code to make sure I had an appt. The woman who checked me in saw my university employer card and commented on it. But I don’t think she was going to check. I’m fairly convinced anyone could just drive up, say they have an appt and they work in Education and Childcare, and get a shot. Which isn’t a bad thing imo - just get people through as fast as possible.
No symptoms so far. I had good luck getting appts between 4am and 6am for anyone in LA.
Hearing the same at the Oakland Coliseum.....very fast and efficient. [Reply]
So I found out something interesting yesterday. It’s starting to get easier to get the vaccine if you take it upon yourself to keep digging rather than signing up on your states website and waiting to hear back from them.
CVS had an opening yesterday morning right by my house had I wanted. My friend and his wife got their first shots and no questions asked. It’s a shame that the elderly are waiting to here back from local government (depending on your state, mine is a shit show) [Reply]
24 hrs post injection, still slight bruised feeling at injection site , was a bit more noticeable last night but it's back to what It was right after injection . Some of the girls at work mentioned feeling somewhat itchy but overall shoulder tenderness is the main symptom.
all the LTC homes in town were vaccinated few weeks ago haven't heard any major issues .
My wife mentioned last night she has seen a quite noticeable drop in a variety of illnesses this year due to lockdown/masks etc, Mono, strep, COPD exacerbations, influenza , pneumonias, coughs, colds. I don't remember the last time I saw a coughing infant or toddler come into work for a chest x-ray. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Monticore:
24 hrs post injection, still slight bruised feeling at injection site , was a bit more noticeable last night but it's back to what It was right after injection . Some of the girls at work mentioned feeling somewhat itchy but overall shoulder tenderness is the main symptom.
all the LTC homes in town were vaccinated few weeks ago haven't heard any major issues .
My wife mentioned last night she has seen a quite noticeable drop in a variety of illnesses this year due to lockdown/masks etc, Mono, strep, COPD exacerbations, influenza , pneumonias, coughs, colds. I don't remember the last time I saw a coughing infant or toddler come into work for a chest x-ray.
Yeah, say what you want about the masks, but no one in my family has so much as had a cold since last summer, and we’ve got a toddler in daycare - the ultimate Petri dish. Last year, we had him in the doc 3-4 times for various illnesses, and were sick several times ourselves. NOTHING this year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by stevieray:
Sounds like some of you better wear masks the rest of your life, counting on a piece of cloth, as opposed to your immune system.
Don't you worry about science and medicine your bible will save you if you get sick. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Strongside:
Yeah, say what you want about the masks, but no one in my family has so much as had a cold since last summer, and we’ve got a toddler in daycare - the ultimate Petri dish. Last year, we had him in the doc 3-4 times for various illnesses, and were sick several times ourselves. NOTHING this year.
Doesn't mean you haven't been exposed to "garden variety" cold or influenza viruses.
EDIT: Just noticed that rt.live which was tracking the effective r-number of coronavirus has been nuked. [Reply]