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Nzoner's Game Room>***The Official MMA Thread***
KcMizzou 08:18 PM 07-08-2010
Excited about an upcoming fight? Want to make predictions, or just give people a heads-up that there are some fights on? We can do it here.

(Also a good place to complain, dicuss, and agrue about the outcomes)
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SPchief 12:14 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Question:

Did this happen because she was simply overrated, or, like many fighters who achieve mainstream success, did her's cause her to lose focus on her training? Something else?
Yes
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dirk digler 12:14 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Question:

Did this happen because she was simply overrated, or, like many fighters who achieve mainstream success, did her's cause her to lose focus on her training? Something else?
Did you see the weigh-in video? She was completely unhinged. I think the pressure finally got to her and her face became a punching bag tonight.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 12:14 AM 11-15-2015
It seems like the tide on here turned against Rousey pretty significantly lately. I don't know if that is due to oversaturation or something else.

I do kind of feel bad for her though, because she had bankable crossover appeal that was tied to her invincibility. This fight probably ruins all of that, as in her earning potential is now completely gone.
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BigCatDaddy 12:14 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Question:

Did this happen because she was simply overrated, or, like many fighters who achieve mainstream success, did her's cause her to lose focus on her training? Something else?
Hard to say. Holm looked bad her previous fight against a turd which is why she was such a huge underdog.
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jspchief 12:14 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Question:

Did this happen because she was simply overrated, or, like many fighters who achieve mainstream success, did her's cause her to lose focus on her training? Something else?
Honestly it's hard to say. Rousey's strategy was really bad considering her opponent. She should have pressed the ground game from go. I think she was too cocky.

Does that make her overrated? I don't know. I think she's benefitted from lack of competition. I also believe that fight could have looked totally different with a different approach.
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alnorth 12:15 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by Jerm:
She's always been overrated...garbage stand up facing extremely favorable competition with horrible game plans.

She has no adjustments...if she can't clench, throw, and get the armbar well...you see what happens.
Rousey is not a good fighter. She has a silver bullet against pure strikers though, but tonight she didn't go to it, so since she is fundamentally a bad fighter outside of her tricks, she lost.
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Otter 12:15 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Question:

Did this happen because she was simply overrated, or, like many fighters who achieve mainstream success, did her's cause her to lose focus on her training? Something else?
1. She was the hottest piece of ass to have that skill to ever come around and may very well may ever be and Dana White matched her to milk the cash cow

2. She's getting into acting and losing the taste for blood
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SPchief 12:17 AM 11-15-2015
Tonight was a promoter's dream.
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mdstu 12:17 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by alnorth:
It was bizarre. Rousey tried to get into a stand-up fight with Holm and its not working. She responded by doubling down and completely ignoring the possibility of going to the ground despite multiple clinches.
I think alot of it had to do with her being so gassed and the one time she was in position for the hip toss Holly defended it very well.
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BigCatDaddy 12:18 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by SPchief:
Tonight was a promoter's dream.
Id say Dana is crying himself to sleep.
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Jerm 12:18 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Hard to say. Holm looked bad her previous fight against a turd which is why she was such a huge underdog.
LOL I actually read a theory on Twitter that proposed she was sandbagging this entire time because she knew she'd fight Ronda eventually and wanted Ronda to take her lightly.

Sounds insane I know but....yeah insane. :-)
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alnorth 12:19 AM 11-15-2015
hah, earlier this week when I saw that Joanna was a heavier favorite than Rousey, I assumed maybe the gamblers thought Rousey might arrogantly come out trying to out-kickbox Holm just to prove she's a complete fighter for stupid pride. Thats exactly what happened, and Holm got the head kick KO. I guess the gamblers are smart.
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Jerm 12:19 AM 11-15-2015
Ronda's coach is also a POS douchebag that has rode her coattails to stardom.

As an actual coach, he's frickin terrible.
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The Poz 12:20 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Id say Dana is crying himself to sleep.
I'd say he's whackin' himself off to sleep now that he has two superstars. $$$
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dirk digler 12:21 AM 11-15-2015
Originally Posted by mdstu:
I think alot of it had to do with her being so gassed and the one time she was in position for the hip toss Holly defended it very well.
She was totally gassed so maybe she wasn't expecting this fight to go long. Whatever it was she got her ass kicked from start to finish.
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