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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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TLO 11:04 AM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
COVID-19 deaths: Infection fatality ratio is about 1% says new report

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/2072...ty-ratio-says/
Originally Posted by :
Age-specific IFRs increased from 0.1% and below for individuals under 40 years to greater than 5% among individuals over 80 years.
That's a big difference
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Donger 11:09 AM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by TLO:
That's a big difference
Yes, and known for some time. It would be good if the CDC would update. They haven't since September.
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George Liquor 11:19 AM 01-20-2021
So uh, is waking up with a raging sore throat a sign of 'rona?
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MahomesMagic 11:21 AM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
COVID-19 deaths: Infection fatality ratio is about 1% says new report

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/2072...ty-ratio-says/
Imperial College.

Always wrong.
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Donger 11:39 AM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Imperial College.

Always wrong.
Still lying about their non-existent Sweden forecast?

Neat.
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Discuss Thrower 12:09 PM 01-20-2021
https://www.bloombergquint.com/china...ok-set-to-stay
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Donger 12:15 PM 01-20-2021
New research published late Tuesday provides evidence that people vaccinated against coronavirus would be protected against at least some of the variants.

Two teams tested two of the variants against blood taken from people who had received the full two-course dose of either the Moderna or the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

While the mutations in the new variants of the virus -- the one first seen in Britain and another first identified in South Africa -- did allow them to evade some of the immunity induced by vaccination, it was far from a complete escape, the two teams reported separately.

A team led by Dr. Michel Nussenzweig of the Rockefeller University tested plasma taken from 20 people who got two doses of either the Pfizer/BioNTech or Moderna vaccine as part of clinical trials. They found the vaccines produced strong antibody responses, as well as cells that keep producing new antibodies for months or years.

"We measured their antibody responses to the wild type virus. Then we took their plasmas and measured them against the variants," Nussenzweig told CNN.

Different mutations in the viruses did allow some escape from some types of antibodies, but the bodies of the volunteers threw an army of different types of antibodies at the viruses, the team reported in a pre-print -- not peer reviewed -- published online.

"When you start putting all these mixtures of antibodies together, what it means is that together they can take care of the variants," Nussenzweig said. Even though they had a reduced effect, overall the response was so overwhelming that it should not mater, he said.

"What we really want to do with these vaccines is keep people out of the hospital. They are extremely likely to do that, irrespective," Nussenzweig added.

Eventually, the vaccines should be updated -- but the new mRNA vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna can be changed very quickly. "Should the vaccines be tweaked?" he asked. "Probably -- but that doesn't mean that they won't be effective."

Separately, Ugur Sahin, who helped invent the BioNTech vaccine being made and distributed by Pfizer, teed his vaccine against the variant first seen in the UK. The team found "no biologically significant difference in neutralization activity," they reported in a pre-print report. But they said it would be "prudent" to start tweaking the vaccine, just in case.
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TLO 01:55 PM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by BDj23:
So uh, is waking up with a raging sore throat a sign of 'rona?
Possibly. Could be a number of other things as well though.
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petegz28 02:16 PM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by BDj23:
So uh, is waking up with a raging sore throat a sign of 'rona?
Common Causes of Sore Throat
Cold and Flu: The common cold and seasonal influenza share many symptoms, including that dreaded sore throat. If you’re suffering from a cold or the flu, you may also experience fever, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, cough, runny nose, sneezing, and congestion. Colds are usually milder than flu, and are more likely to include a runny or stuffy nose. Protect yourself with an annual flu vaccine, and know we are here to provide care if you do become ill.


COVID-19: Like the common cold and flu, COVID-19 is a viral, respiratory illness that can indeed cause sore throat. However, sore throat doesn’t seem to be a particularly common symptom of the novel coronavirus. One study, commissioned by the World Health Organization (WHO), found that out of more than 55,000 confirmed cases, only 13.9 percent of people reported a sore throat. Get a COVID-19 test if you’ve been around someone who tested positive, or are exhibiting other COVID-19 symptoms, such as cough, difficulty breathing, and/or fever, along with chills, muscle pain, headache, and any new loss of taste or smell.


Strep throat: Strep throat is a bacterial infection of the throat and tonsils, caused by streptococcal bacteria. Look for red, swollen tonsils and throat; white spots or streaks on the tongue or back of your throat; and swollen lymph nodes in your neck. Strep throat can also make it difficult to swallow and cause headache, fever and chills. An in-clinic strep test or throat culture can determine if group A strep is the cause of your sore throat. If so, our providers can prescribe an antibiotic to treat the infection.


Allergies: When your immune system overreacts to a foreign substance (e.g. a food, drug, chemical, animal dander, or pollen), it can trigger an allergic response. Severe reactions are possible, but for common allergies, you’ll likely experience itchy eyes, sneezing, runny nose, cough, congestion and headache. A post-nasal drip can lead to an allergy-induced sore throat.
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BigCatDaddy 02:24 PM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by BDj23:
So uh, is waking up with a raging sore throat a sign of 'rona?
PM TLO with a dick pic and he can diagnose you.
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Chief Roundup 03:28 PM 01-20-2021
They gave us a sticker.

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Marcellus 03:30 PM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
They gave us a sticker.

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Better than a dick pic.
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Chief Roundup 04:00 PM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Better than a dick pic.
:-)

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Azide22 06:12 PM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
They gave us a sticker.

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Dang! I just got a card showing I got both doses with dates/time and lots. Second dose is worse than first for many. Not too bad for me.
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Azide22 06:15 PM 01-20-2021
Originally Posted by O.city:
The mutations are happening in the actual spike protein. So if the protein structure is different, the current vaccines woudlnt' have efficacy as it's making immune cells that wouldn't recognize that spike.
They targeted many spots on the spike protein. Variants are a concern, but as long as antibodies target enough antigens on the spike protein, it will still work.

Vaccine can be updated quickly too.
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