Originally Posted by penbrook:
Not true. His cap problems, signing players really late, releasing players like Charles and Maclin without offering pay cuts.
Dorsey might not be the best at the GM part but he was certainly one of the best at the player personnel part. [Reply]
Despite today’s news of his ouster in Kansas City, there’s a chance John Dorsey will be landing on his feet, sooner than later.
In January, Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel dubbed Dorsey, a former Packers executive, as the “best bet” to succeed Ted Thompson as the General Manager in Green Bay. The more immediate question is whether the Packers will be inclined to bring Dorsey back into the fold before such a move is made.
For his part, Dorsey subsequently called his time with the Chiefs the “greatest four years of my life,” and he expressed a desire to stay with the team long enough for his six-year-old son to graduate high school.
Dorsey, who has a year left on his Chiefs deal, can take the year off with pay, stay put in Kansas City, and plan his next move. A respected figure in league circles, he’ll surely find something, somewhere.
He may end up finding the G.M. job that arguably has more job security than any other, since there’s no one person in Titletown who can get up on the wrong side of the bed or catch a wild hair and fire the head of the football operation.
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
Did Clark wait until after Ballard left to do this evaluation? Pretty frustrating that we let Ballard go and then decided that they guy he could have replaced wasn't good enough.
For Clark to have made the right move this year he will have to find a guy equal to or better than Dorsey and Ballard. I don't like our chances.
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Dorsey was shit with the cap. Really shitty at getting long term deals done. Shit with free agents. Average drafts. Could pluck waiver wire talent for the back end of the roster he was good at. Not that big of a deal to lose him. Reid is the big reason for the franchise turn around anyways.
Average drafts really? The Chiefs drafts under Dorsey have been above average at a minimum. The crap management has been a known issue, but could have been fixed with restructuring of duties IMO. His signing of free agents was not great either, but bottom line is he helped assemble a deep and talented roster by most all NFL standards. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Dorsey clearly made mistakes but his hits definitely outweighed his misses, which I described playing Devil's Advocate.
That said, I think this is all about Green Bay and a non-commitment to the Chiefs moreso than any misses.
Then if that discussion happened, why not let Ballard know that come next year he's GM.
Unless, Dorsey just revealed he's not going to extend his contract no matter what, and it seems like a really bizarre circumstances of dropping the bombshell.
Everything points to a recent and sudden issue that culminated in parting ways.
I'm still not happy. Dorsey was probably the biggest positive move this team has made as an organisation in 20+ years. [Reply]
Yeah I don't buy the "Clark did an evaluation" idea either. If you do that, you do it in January when the season's over. You don't do it in June. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
It's better than losing him next March
But not quite as good losing him months ago allowing us to not lose Ballard. Initial thought is this isn't just about Dorsey's work history. If that's the case then shouldn't he have been let go so we could keep the 2nd in charge? Are we to believe that Clark was considering keeping Dorsey long-term until the Maclin deal? [Reply]
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
But not quite as good losing him months ago allowing us to not lose Ballard. Initial thought is this isn't just about Dorsey's work history. If that's the case then shouldn't he have been let go so we could keep the 2nd in charge? Are we to believe that Clark was considering keeping Dorsey long-term until the Maclin deal?
At this point, no one knows. I posted about Dorsey's mistakes in an earlier post, so again, maybe this is the "straw that broke the camel's back".
But my gut tells me this was more about Dorsey's possible flirtation with Green Bay more so than his mistakes as a GM. [Reply]