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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2020 STL Cardinals Thread***
BigRedChief 01:21 PM 02-13-2020
2020 Opening Day Lineup

Spoiler!


For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year.....
2019 Thread
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=320239
2018 Thread
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=312812
2012 Thread
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=254619
etc.
All the way back to 2006 WS
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=312812
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oldandslow 08:05 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi:
I understand that, however the trade was for Liberatore, not Fowler.
So we trade from an area of need (#3-4 hitter) for an area that we have been well stocked for years (pitching).

Mo needs to go. Period.
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BigRedChief 08:38 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi:
I understand that, however the trade was for Liberatore, not Fowler.
Even if Liberatore turns out to be the real deal, there is still a serious issue with player evaluations in the front office.

So far, the two outfielders we traded away are prospering on other clubs. The ones we kept are under performing. Or if this is who they are, don't help the team win championships.
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Jewish Rabbi 09:53 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Even if Liberatore turns out to be the real deal, there is still a serious issue with player evaluations in the front office.

So far, the two outfielders we traded away are prospering on other clubs. The ones we kept are under performing. Or if this is who they are, don't help the team win championships.
Again, I don’t want to come across as defending Mo, but maybe that signifies a fundamental flaw with the organization’s hitting philosophy?
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Chief Roundup 11:47 AM 10-28-2020
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi:
Again, I don’t want to come across as defending Mo, but maybe that signifies a fundamental flaw with the organization’s hitting philosophy?
All the coaches, trainers, etc. still all fall as a responsibility of Mo. He has to be able to self evaluate as well as evaluate all people within the organization. If he is not doing that properly then he has to be removed for someone who can do that properly.
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BigRedChief 11:14 PM 10-28-2020
Wong Gone!

The Cardinals notified Kolten Wong, a Gold Glove-winning keystone of their infield, they would not pick up the $12.5 million option on his contract for 2021 and that he would immediately become a free agent.

The motivation behind the move was to “create instant flexibility,” president of baseball operations John Mozeliak said, as they retool the team’s roster and reduce payroll. Mozeliak called Wong personally Wednesday to notify him of the decision, explaining that the shortened season with its nonexistent ticket revenue forced the team to make some uncharacteristic cuts. Mozeliak said he and Wong agreed to keep “the door open” for a reunion depending on how the free-agent marketplace and hot stove season evolves in the coming months.
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BigRedChief 12:27 AM 10-29-2020
Mozeliak says he plans on touching base with Yadier Molina and Adam Wainwright's agents this week but anticipates they will test the free agency market.
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O.city 08:14 AM 10-29-2020
Good lord.

Billionaires crying poor. The american way.
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Marco Polo 08:33 AM 10-29-2020
I'm actually fine with letting Wong walk. His hitting regressed and in the home run era we are in, we don't need a field first 2B that his 1 HR this year. Unfortunately this is more of symptom of bad signings.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 11:34 AM 10-29-2020
Originally Posted by Marco Polo:
I'm actually fine with letting Wong walk. His hitting regressed and in the home run era we are in, we don't need a field first 2B that his 1 HR this year. Unfortunately this is more of symptom of bad signings.
He is more than worth that option on a $/WAR basis. The team is just incredibly poorly run.
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Jewish Rabbi 11:48 AM 10-29-2020
Hopefully letting Wong go is the first step in blowing this whole bitch up, but I think we all know it’s not.
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Ocotillo 09:53 AM 11-12-2020

Future Hall of Famer Yadier Molina has received calls with interest from both the Yankees and Mets plus 3-4 other teams in addition to the #STLCards as I just said on @MLBNetwork St. Louis is the likely favorite but in free agency you never know. Seeks a 2-year deal.

— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) November 12, 2020

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Pasta Little Brioni 10:41 AM 11-12-2020
Mo will bring him and Waino back and call it a day. That's probably enough sadly to keep his job
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BigRedChief 11:07 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Mo will bring him and Waino back and call it a day. That's probably enough sadly to keep his job
Perfect Mo move. Incremental safe measures that doesn’t get us closer to another championship. Why not give Ozuma $150 million to hit .230 while we are at it?
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Ocotillo 01:05 PM 12-24-2020

Per sources: Pirates closing in on a trade of Josh Bell to the Nationals.

— Jason Mackey (@JMackeyPG) December 24, 2020

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George Liquor 01:34 PM 12-24-2020
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball:
Mo will bring him and Waino back and call it a day. That's probably enough sadly to keep his job
Mo still acting like it's 2012 lmao
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