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Nzoner's Game Room>***2024 NFL Free Agency***
JohnnyHammersticks 08:57 AM 02-27-2024
Originally Posted by In58men:
Can somebody create a “2024 Free Agency” thread, please. Thanks in advance




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RunKC 12:14 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by Basileus777:



What a great stat for finding good quarterbacks.
Only the beginning when it comes to Herbert.

Originally Posted by :
2. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers

OFF 10 | DST 30 | Betrayal Index: -20

Only twice this season has an NFL team lost when producing at least 16 EPA on offense. The Chargers were that team both times, first against the Dolphins, then against the Lions. Historically bad DST games against Detroit, Miami and Kansas City stand out for the Chargers this season. That is why Herbert remains about where he was when this index debuted before last season, among the most betrayed quarterbacks in the league.
https://theathletic.com/5099190/2023...herbert-purdy/
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Mecca 12:15 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
His coaches were Anthony Lynn and Brandon Staley. Let’s see if that improves now that he has a real HC coaching him.

The work Harbaugh has done with QB’s is notable (CC Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick).
He also just lost his pair of high end WRs he's always had.
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Megatron96 12:17 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Yet he never won anything, Herbert has for the most part been a stat monster without winning anything.


He played for one of the most dysfunctional teams/organizations in NFL history. Might've had some little bit to do with it, Idk.
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staylor26 12:21 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Only the beginning when it comes to Herbert.



https://theathletic.com/5099190/2023...herbert-purdy/
So you're just going to ignore the fact that the record you posted isn't even accurate?
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RunKC 12:25 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by Megatron96:
He played for one of the most dysfunctional teams/organizations in NFL history. Might've had some little bit to do with it, Idk.
Nobody remembers the QB that had good stats and had a 30-29 record with Chargers and then everything changed when he went to a really good offensive coach.
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Sassy Squatch 12:29 PM 03-20-2024
:-) bruh. All you have to do is say you got bamboozled by fake stats on Twitter. You don't have to double triple and quadruple downm
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Mecca 12:31 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Nobody remembers the QB that had good stats and had a 30-29 record with Chargers and then everything changed when he went to a really good offensive coach.
Bro Jim Harbaugh is not the offensive mastermind Sean Payton was at that time, dude hired Greg fucking Roman.
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tredadda 12:32 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Yet he never won anything, Herbert has for the most part been a stat monster without winning anything.
Stats/records based on certain criteria aside, who honestly trusts Herbert to lead a game winning drive when it actually matters? Herbert gets more excuses made for why he can’t get it done than almost any other QB in the league.
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staylor26 12:34 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch:
:-) bruh. All you have to do is say you got bamboozled by fake stats on Twitter. You don't have to double triple and quadruple downm
He refuses to address it :-)
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ToxSocks 12:36 PM 03-20-2024
Herbert is a very talented QB and throws one of the best balls in the league. I dont think his talent should be questioned.

Saying he doesn't have the "clutch gene" is totally valid as he has yet to show that he can make plays necessary when the game is on the line.

I do think that with a better organization/coaching staff he could've had a better carrier up to this point.

And i don't agree that Harbaugh is gonna be the guy to turn it around for him/them.
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tredadda 12:38 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by Mecca:
He also just lost his pair of high end WRs he's always had.
And high scoring utility back.
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tredadda 12:41 PM 03-20-2024
Originally Posted by ModSocks:
Herbert is a very talented QB and throws one of the best balls in the league. I dont think his talent should be questioned.

Saying he doesn't have the "clutch gene" is totally valid as he has yet to show that he can make plays necessary when the game is on the line.

I do think that with a better organization/coaching staff he could've had a better carrier up to this point.

And i don't agree that Harbaugh is gonna be the guy to turn it around for him/them.
Remember when he couldn’t hold a lead in the playoffs vs Jacksonville? Yup, the OC was blamed. They canned him and replaced him with Moore who allowed for Dak to put up monster numbers. Yet again Herbert couldn’t get it done. Curious how many more times Herbert will get a pass for not getting it done when it matters.
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staylor26 12:43 PM 03-20-2024
Yea, losing Williams is one thing, they've always been much better when he's healthy.

Losing Allen too?

That's similar to Pat losing Kelce, with nobody like Rice or Hollywood already on the roster.

Sure, they could draft one if they stay at 5, but I don't think they do.
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Pasta Little Brioni 12:43 PM 03-20-2024
How many times was he "betrayed" by turnovers and failed drives in inopportune times?
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Pasta Little Brioni 12:44 PM 03-20-2024
Dude threw a mean YOLO ball to Williams for sure
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