Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch: :-) Now Aiyuk himself is tweeting about the rumor Steelers are working on a trade for him. Wonder if they actually pull it of
Guess we won’t be beating him in the SB for a third straight year then?? [Reply]
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
Harbaugh is a Dinosaur and is in the same division as the Chiefs.
Not buying it.
Not about whether you buy it or not. Go look at his history the guy’s a winner and whether you like him or not it can’t be disputed. I’m not saying the Chargers will overtake the Chiefs, but after a few years I believe they’ll be in the hunt for division titles. Every prior Chargers coach in recent history sucked. Harbaugh doesn’t. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 493rd:
Not about whether you buy it or not. Go look at his history the guy’s a winner and whether you like him or not it can’t be disputed. I’m not saying the Chargers will overtake the Chiefs, but after a few years I believe they’ll be in the hunt for division titles. Every prior Chargers coach in recent history sucked. Harbaugh doesn’t.
Originally Posted by 493rd:
It’s called a rebuild. The centerpiece is there with Herbert. Give them 2-3 years and I’m guessing they’ll complete. Harbaugh has won everywhere he’s gone. No reason to believe it won’t happen this time around.
We'll see how much he has changed. He ran an antiquated offense in college and was able to succeed due to superior recruiting and resources.
He had a potential top 5 pick at QB, with a top 50 WR and several other future NFL players at WR/TE, and still never through the ball.
And yeah, it's a rebuild. They cut to the bone. How do they recover? [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
We'll see how much he has changed. He ran an antiquated offense in college and was able to succeed due to superior recruiting and resources.
He had a potential top 5 pick at QB, with a top 50 WR and several other future NFL players at WR/TE, and still never through the ball.
And yeah, it's a rebuild. They cut to the bone. How do they recover?
People started labeling Herbert as the next Philip Rivers, and man that's becoming a scary accurate comparison.
Starts his career with a bang, now he's entering one of the several 2-3 stretches that Rivers had where the Chargers would struggle to go .500
Don't know if he'll ever have a window of going to the AFC Championship like Rivers did. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
People started labeling Herbert as the next Philip Rivers, and man that's becoming a scary accurate comparison.
Starts his career with a bang, now he's entering one of the several 2-3 stretches that Rivers had where the Chargers would struggle to go .500
Don't know if he'll ever have a window of going to the AFC Championship like Rivers did.
I like Herbert a lot as a QB but the fact is that he is now expensive, Chargers are rebuilding and that most QB's do not win their first SB after age 31. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
We'll see how much he has changed. He ran an antiquated offense in college and was able to succeed due to superior recruiting and resources.
He had a potential top 5 pick at QB, with a top 50 WR and several other future NFL players at WR/TE, and still never through the ball.
And yeah, it's a rebuild. They cut to the bone. How do they recover?
Finish the tear-down; trade Herbert for picks and draft JJ at 5. Profit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 493rd:
Not about whether you buy it or not. Go look at his history the guy’s a winner and whether you like him or not it can’t be disputed. I’m not saying the Chargers will overtake the Chiefs, but after a few years I believe they’ll be in the hunt for division titles. Every prior Chargers coach in recent history sucked. Harbaugh doesn’t.
Sample size is super small. He may be good; he may not. There’s no way I’d ever cower over a head coach. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Sample size is super small. He may be good; he may not. There’s no way I’d ever cower over a head coach.
The guy came into the league just over a decade ago and took a team that had not won even 9 games in a season for the previous 8 years, to 3 straight NFCCGs and a SB by building a top 5 defense in Pts and Yds all 3 years with a top 10 running game and TO differential. I dislike Hairballs more than i dislike Rats and Coach Ks but they know what they're doing.
The good news is, he tends to grate on people pretty quick. You can get away with that in college with younger kids and the turnover every couple years but that doesn't usually fly in the pros, so you may only need to "worry" about him for about 5 years.
What should be most troubling for AFCW opponents is that he's starting off with a franchise QB in his prime. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Herbert is 22-6 when he defense allowed less than 28 points.
Save yourself from the people who don't know football man. Anyone that thinks Herbert sucks is either less intelligent than a rock or a complete jackass. [Reply]
Originally Posted by rfaulk34:
The guy came into the league just over a decade ago and took a team that had not won even 9 games in a season for the previous 8 years, to 3 straight NFCCGs and a SB by building a top 5 defense in Pts and Yds all 3 years with a top 10 running game and TO differential. I dislike Hairballs more than i dislike Rats and Coach Ks but they know what they're doing.
The good news is, he tends to grate on people pretty quick. You can get away with that in college with younger kids and the turnover every couple years but that doesn't usually fly in the pros, so you may only need to "worry" about him for about 5 years.
What should be most troubling for AFCW opponents is that he's starting off with a franchise QB in his prime.
Turning around the 49ers for 4 years isn't a sample size of 4; it's a sample size of 1. No doubt he has the capacity to be a good coach, but there are so many other things that play into that. And it's not clear the Spanos way of managing and spending will work well with what he's trying to accomplish. Nor will the fact that he's older and likely even more set in his ways and confident (arrogant?) in his path than he was previously.
I'm excited to see what Herbert is this year after losing Keenan Allen. And excited to see Harbaugh's guidance especially as his college offense is most notable because it made his QB and WRs look exceptionally average from an NFL perspective (much to their detriment in the upcoming draft).
I once had a long and lively conversation with a slightly inebriated Marshall Faulk at an airport bar who become a much more inebriated Marshall Faulk by the time our conversation concluded. He went on to explain that NFL head coaches didn't add that much value, not even as much as MLB managers in his estimation. This seemed ludicrous, but he's an NFL HOFer and I'm 5'8 and Jewish.
Definitely not afraid of a head coach but certainly interested to see the evolution of the team. [Reply]