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Nzoner's Game Room>*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***
Chiefspants 10:55 AM 04-05-2017
Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

Midish-Season Update (Royals 51-47, 2nd Wild Card, 1.5 GB of ALC):

We're halfway through 2017, and fittingly to the Chiefsplanet's 2017 Season Title, the Royals are all-in on what will likely be one final run with the current core. While many are worried the Royals will take a 2004 style tumble after this year, the farm system is hardly the barren wasteland it was during the Baird years. To see what's in the pipeline and what we have to look forward to, check out this exceptional list and analysis that Duncan put together of our system.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

While I had the honor of starting this thread this year, Duncan will always have a VIP pass to this OP, and can add more content at any time.

2017's Burning Questions Revisited:

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

We're buyers, baby.

In April, I argued that it would be a wise strategy for us to sell if we were 5 GB or worse, but that Dayton would likely add supplemental pieces for us to load up for another run if we were 1-2 GB. On July 24th, the Royals found themselves in sole possession of the 2nd wild card spot and 1.5 games back of the division. In April I said the Royals might pull the trigger on someone like Alex Cobb and resign Luke Hochevar, but since the Rays are also buyers and Luke's shoulder hasn't rebounded, this prediction hasn't come to fruition. Luckily, Dayton Moore again proved much more adept and creative than me by adding Trevor Cahill (good call, Duncan), Brandon Maurer and Ryan Buchter in a single trade. Giving us a solid starter to compete in 2017, and two relievers whom we will control through 2019 and 2021, respectively, keeping Moore's new vision through 2019-2020 intact. Moore has hinted that the Royals will continue to pursue the right deals if they're there, so the fun may not be over just yet. While we may not have the bullets to pull in a "star" like Cueto or Zo, Moore's adeptness may yet again net us what we need for another run in October.

2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

In April I asked if Gordo could at least set the table at a 265/325/425 clip and if Moose could deliver damage around a 265/335/500 clip for an entire year. This season Mr. Moustakas has been the prospect that was promised, delivering at a 277/307/568 clip as of this update. Gordo, on the other hand, has put up an unbelievably abysmal line thus far. But, if there is a silver lining, it's that Gordo has performed at a 246/311/432 line since June 1st, and if he can continue to perform near that mark, he will be more than a valuable asset at the bottom of the lineup while he continues to provide the best LF defense in the league.

3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

In April, I felt that despite the poor start, Royals bullpen would ultimately be "solid" this year, but the question was whether "solid" was good enough for Ned. I argued that the Royals needed Soria to bounce back and that Ned would need to start being strategic in his L/L and R/R matchups. While Ned has still made at times baffling and frustrating decisions with his starters (such as allowing Travis Wood to try to "get the win" and still insisting on sending Hammel out for the 6th, he's mostly done a good job).

MASH: Minor/Moylan - Alexander - Soria - Herrera (Credit to C3HIEF3S for the origins of the phrase) have cemented into reliable pieces, and now that Herrera is showing signs of stabilizing, our dumping of Wood, our call up Flynn, and the acquisition of Buchter and Maurer, the Royals have the potential to enter October with one of the best and deepest bullpens in the postseason.

4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

Cool-Whit, Boni, Mike ****ing Minor, and Alexander have come up huge thus far. Cool Whit is, incredibly, is second on the team in WAR and has more than replaced Zo's presence on the team. They, like the X-Factors on the 2014-2015 teams, have been critical cogs as we've raced back to contention, while Cool-Whit and Boni also have provided a rosier outlook for this team's future. It's worth noting that Salvador Perez and Jason Vargas has been beasts on offense and the mound (along with Sal providing his customary defensive excellence), but I am still a bit wary of Salvy's annual Yost assisted offensive drought as the team moves into August, along with Vargy regressing to his averages.

5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

Ouch, no, but the Royals shift to power-hitting in the juiced ball era looks like one that will pay off. Thankfully, Moss is showing signs of entering his seasonal hot streak where he becomes corn-fed Jesus for a month, and we'll need him hot to keep up with Cleveland down the stretch. While Jorge has been painful to watch in the majors, his scorching performance in AAA should give one a bright hope for the future. While some may disagree, I offer Moose, Hos, Gordo, and Duffy's struggles as exhibit A for why it is far too early to give up on Soler's potential.

Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

Ha! Not even close. However, like Soler, his progress in AAA is incredibly encouraging. With ceilings like Lindor and floors being Esky being thrown out there, it's hard not to be excited about his future.

The Picture Forward

There are many reasons to be excited, and not only for 2017. The Royals emergence of Cool Whit, Bonifacio, and Scott Alexander, and the fact that we have pieces like Salvador Perez, Danny Duffy, Kelvin Herrera, Jorge Soler, Ryan Buchter, Brandon Maurer Cheslor Cuthbert, and Raul Mondesi until at least 2019 should leave one feeling pretty optimistic. Re-up Moose or Hos (and heck, re-sign Dyson while we're at it), and suddenly this team looks very much like one that could compete for the indefinite future.

The Royals are all in again, buckle in and enjoy the ride.

April OP:

Spoiler!

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DJJasonp 01:28 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by siberian khatru:
Terrence Gore is back up.

Also, forget Brian Johnson. Red Sox rotation now is Porcello-Rodriguez-Pomeranz
No Price......No Sale!

(I like it!)
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penbrook 01:30 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by DJJasonp:
No Price......No Sale!

(I like it!)
SWEEP!!
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Why Not? 01:37 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by DJJasonp:
No Price......No Sale!

(I like it!)
Meh. Bitch ass Price getting lit up by the Boston fans would have been glorious to watch
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BWillie 01:38 PM 07-28-2017
Gore hasn't ever seen a Major League at bat yet, has he? Nice life for a guy who's only skill is being fast. Probably cleared 2-3 million dollars in the last 4 years being part of our World Series runs.
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mr. tegu 01:41 PM 07-28-2017
I believe Gore got a few ABs last year in some already decided games.
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ChiefsCountry 01:42 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by penbrook:
You know the Royals are serious when Gore gets brought up just to steal bases
Or they bring up a guy that requires no playing time or at bats.
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Dartgod 01:42 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Gore hasn't ever seen a Major League at bat yet, has he? Nice life for a guy who's only skill is being fast. Probably cleared 2-3 million dollars in the last 4 years being part of our World Series runs.
7 - MLB at bats
9 - plate appearances
0 - hits
2 - hit by pitch
12 - runs scored
19 - stolen bases
2 - caught stealing
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ChiTown 01:47 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by DJJasonp:
No Price......No Sale!

(I like it!)
That is some seriously good fortune for the R's. Let's sweep The Bitches of Beantown!
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penbrook 01:47 PM 07-28-2017
Gore should always have a spot on this team. Burns needs to stay in AAA
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RealSNR 01:54 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by penbrook:
Gore should always have a spot on this team. Burns needs to stay in AIDS
FYP
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Chiefspants 02:29 PM 07-28-2017
Hey all - I started a Royals discussion thread in the Romper Room today (so it won't get buried in the lounge). This one asks what everyone's top five moments were during the dark ages (1990-2012). I plan on starting threads like this in the Romper every now and then as the season winds to October.

Jump in and participate here: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...php?p=12978343
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penbrook 02:42 PM 07-28-2017
Last 7 days: Bonifacio .409 - Hoz .375 - Whit .346 - Moose .333
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C3HIEF3S 02:55 PM 07-28-2017
Porcello doesn't scare me a whole lot. Whatever magic he found last year doesn't seem to be translating over and looks like a flash in the pan more than anything.

He was a big groundball pitcher in his six seasons in Detroit, never having his GB% dip lower than 49% and reaching as high as 55.3% in 2013 (3rd highest of all SP's in 2013). Since making the move to Boston, he's trending in the opposite direction, which doesn't bode well over the long haul in a place like Boston. It worked last year, somehow, but this year it's biting him back.

Here's a 10-game rolling average chart (thanks to the beloved Fangraphs) of Rick Porcello's batted ball evolution, take note of the last three seasons:


This year, I think he is swaying away from his game from the past. Throwing less sinkers/2SFB's and really upping the frequency of his slider, which could explain the career year he is having in regards to strikeouts. 8.17 K/9 this year.
I think somewhere along the line after he left Detroit, he began to lose the feel for his sinker, or Boston isn't preaching it to him as they did in Detroit. Judging from his heatmaps of his sinker that I put in spoilers below, it seems to me that he is definitely leaving that pitch up more and more each year.

Spoiler!


For a pitch in which the primary purpose of it is to get the opponents' bat head on the top half of the ball, I think it's pretty easy to see just where it is going wrong for Porcello this year. His groundball rate is down to a career low 38.4%, he's giving up more flyballs than ever at a rate of 40.5%, and unlike last year for Rick Porcello, his fly balls are actually leaving the park now.
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lewdog 03:20 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Well, last we heard, posters were offering a tantalizing offer of Starling straight up. Sad to report DM never saw these posts and wasn't able to swing that deal
:-)


There's still a few days left for us to show others that Bubba is the real deal!!!!

:-)
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duncan_idaho 03:37 PM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S:
Porcello doesn't scare me a whole lot. Whatever magic he found last year doesn't seem to be translating over and looks like a flash in the pan more than anything.

He was a big groundball pitcher in his six seasons in Detroit, never having his GB% dip lower than 49% and reaching as high as 55.3% in 2013 (3rd highest of all SP's in 2013). Since making the move to Boston, he's trending in the opposite direction, which doesn't bode well over the long haul in a place like Boston. It worked last year, somehow, but this year it's biting him back.

Here's a 10-game rolling average chart (thanks to the beloved Fangraphs) of Rick Porcello's batted ball evolution, take note of the last three seasons:


This year, I think he is swaying away from his game from the past. Throwing less sinkers/2SFB's and really upping the frequency of his slider, which could explain the career year he is having in regards to strikeouts. 8.17 K/9 this year.
I think somewhere along the line after he left Detroit, he began to lose the feel for his sinker, or Boston isn't preaching it to him as they did in Detroit. Judging from his heatmaps of his sinker that I put in spoilers below, it seems to me that he is definitely leaving that pitch up more and more each year.

Spoiler!


For a pitch in which the primary purpose of it is to get the opponents' bat head on the top half of the ball, I think it's pretty easy to see just where it is going wrong for Porcello this year. His groundball rate is down to a career low 38.4%, he's giving up more flyballs than ever at a rate of 40.5%, and unlike last year for Rick Porcello, his fly balls are actually leaving the park now.

Rick Porcello winning the Cy Young last year was a goddamn tragedy.

I think he caught a lot of hitters off guard by switching up his pitch mix, and now that they're adjusting, he's getting drilled.


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