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Nzoner's Game Room>*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***
Chiefspants 10:55 AM 04-05-2017
Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

Midish-Season Update (Royals 51-47, 2nd Wild Card, 1.5 GB of ALC):

We're halfway through 2017, and fittingly to the Chiefsplanet's 2017 Season Title, the Royals are all-in on what will likely be one final run with the current core. While many are worried the Royals will take a 2004 style tumble after this year, the farm system is hardly the barren wasteland it was during the Baird years. To see what's in the pipeline and what we have to look forward to, check out this exceptional list and analysis that Duncan put together of our system.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

While I had the honor of starting this thread this year, Duncan will always have a VIP pass to this OP, and can add more content at any time.

2017's Burning Questions Revisited:

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

We're buyers, baby.

In April, I argued that it would be a wise strategy for us to sell if we were 5 GB or worse, but that Dayton would likely add supplemental pieces for us to load up for another run if we were 1-2 GB. On July 24th, the Royals found themselves in sole possession of the 2nd wild card spot and 1.5 games back of the division. In April I said the Royals might pull the trigger on someone like Alex Cobb and resign Luke Hochevar, but since the Rays are also buyers and Luke's shoulder hasn't rebounded, this prediction hasn't come to fruition. Luckily, Dayton Moore again proved much more adept and creative than me by adding Trevor Cahill (good call, Duncan), Brandon Maurer and Ryan Buchter in a single trade. Giving us a solid starter to compete in 2017, and two relievers whom we will control through 2019 and 2021, respectively, keeping Moore's new vision through 2019-2020 intact. Moore has hinted that the Royals will continue to pursue the right deals if they're there, so the fun may not be over just yet. While we may not have the bullets to pull in a "star" like Cueto or Zo, Moore's adeptness may yet again net us what we need for another run in October.

2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

In April I asked if Gordo could at least set the table at a 265/325/425 clip and if Moose could deliver damage around a 265/335/500 clip for an entire year. This season Mr. Moustakas has been the prospect that was promised, delivering at a 277/307/568 clip as of this update. Gordo, on the other hand, has put up an unbelievably abysmal line thus far. But, if there is a silver lining, it's that Gordo has performed at a 246/311/432 line since June 1st, and if he can continue to perform near that mark, he will be more than a valuable asset at the bottom of the lineup while he continues to provide the best LF defense in the league.

3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

In April, I felt that despite the poor start, Royals bullpen would ultimately be "solid" this year, but the question was whether "solid" was good enough for Ned. I argued that the Royals needed Soria to bounce back and that Ned would need to start being strategic in his L/L and R/R matchups. While Ned has still made at times baffling and frustrating decisions with his starters (such as allowing Travis Wood to try to "get the win" and still insisting on sending Hammel out for the 6th, he's mostly done a good job).

MASH: Minor/Moylan - Alexander - Soria - Herrera (Credit to C3HIEF3S for the origins of the phrase) have cemented into reliable pieces, and now that Herrera is showing signs of stabilizing, our dumping of Wood, our call up Flynn, and the acquisition of Buchter and Maurer, the Royals have the potential to enter October with one of the best and deepest bullpens in the postseason.

4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

Cool-Whit, Boni, Mike ****ing Minor, and Alexander have come up huge thus far. Cool Whit is, incredibly, is second on the team in WAR and has more than replaced Zo's presence on the team. They, like the X-Factors on the 2014-2015 teams, have been critical cogs as we've raced back to contention, while Cool-Whit and Boni also have provided a rosier outlook for this team's future. It's worth noting that Salvador Perez and Jason Vargas has been beasts on offense and the mound (along with Sal providing his customary defensive excellence), but I am still a bit wary of Salvy's annual Yost assisted offensive drought as the team moves into August, along with Vargy regressing to his averages.

5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

Ouch, no, but the Royals shift to power-hitting in the juiced ball era looks like one that will pay off. Thankfully, Moss is showing signs of entering his seasonal hot streak where he becomes corn-fed Jesus for a month, and we'll need him hot to keep up with Cleveland down the stretch. While Jorge has been painful to watch in the majors, his scorching performance in AAA should give one a bright hope for the future. While some may disagree, I offer Moose, Hos, Gordo, and Duffy's struggles as exhibit A for why it is far too early to give up on Soler's potential.

Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

Ha! Not even close. However, like Soler, his progress in AAA is incredibly encouraging. With ceilings like Lindor and floors being Esky being thrown out there, it's hard not to be excited about his future.

The Picture Forward

There are many reasons to be excited, and not only for 2017. The Royals emergence of Cool Whit, Bonifacio, and Scott Alexander, and the fact that we have pieces like Salvador Perez, Danny Duffy, Kelvin Herrera, Jorge Soler, Ryan Buchter, Brandon Maurer Cheslor Cuthbert, and Raul Mondesi until at least 2019 should leave one feeling pretty optimistic. Re-up Moose or Hos (and heck, re-sign Dyson while we're at it), and suddenly this team looks very much like one that could compete for the indefinite future.

The Royals are all in again, buckle in and enjoy the ride.

April OP:

Spoiler!

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penbrook 07:33 PM 07-27-2017
Per KC Royals

OF @porlando52 and INF @cheslorcuthbert have both been returned from their rehab assignments due to setbacks. Both remain on the DL. #Royals
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BWillie 07:35 PM 07-27-2017
Originally Posted by penbrook:
Per KC Royals

OF @porlando52 and INF @cheslorcuthbert have both been returned from their rehab assignments due to setbacks. Both remain on the DL. #Royals
haha yeah, okay. Orlando and Cheslor being good troops since few roster spots available.
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penbrook 07:38 PM 07-27-2017
Originally Posted by BWillie:
haha yeah, okay. Orlando and Cheslor being good troops since few roster spots available.
This must mean that they are close to trading for someone
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ChiefsCountry 07:46 PM 07-27-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
What will be interesting is if the Sporting KC ownership group, as rumored, purchases the Royals from Glass some day.

Would they move them to KCK?
Main money man in that group just passed away.
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BWillie 07:48 PM 07-27-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
What will be interesting is if the Sporting KC ownership group, as rumored, purchases the Royals from Glass some day.

Would they move them to KCK?
I think that would be a bad idea. Missouri residents would be beside themselves if one of their teams was located in Kansas. A large amount of them would lose their shit if it was the Kansas City (KS) Chiefs or Royals. Especially certain large demographics that watch football. They aint gonna watch no team frum Cansas. Hell noes.
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duncan_idaho 07:49 PM 07-27-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
What will be interesting is if the Sporting KC ownership group, as rumored, purchases the Royals from Glass some day.

Would they move them to KCK?

Depends on how into sports Patterson's heirs are. He was the biggest piece of the wealth in that ownership group, and he's gone.


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DaneMcCloud 08:03 PM 07-27-2017
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Depends on how into sports Patterson's heirs are. He was the biggest piece of the wealth in that ownership group, and he's gone.
That makes sense.

Also, the Royals valuation isn't likely to grow if they leave the K and move to Kansas or any other location in the metro area.

It's not like the Clippers or other teams that reside in a huge marketplace that were previously undervalued.
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duncan_idaho 08:14 PM 07-27-2017
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
That makes sense.

Also, the Royals valuation isn't likely to grow if they leave the K and move to Kansas or any other location in the metro area.

It's not like the Clippers or other teams that reside in a huge marketplace that were previously undervalued.

Yeah. A true downtown ballpark in the middle of the entertainment district down there would possibly add to valuation.

Moving from one giant parking lot on the edge of the metro to another giant parking lot on the edge of the metro doesn't.


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penbrook 09:00 PM 07-27-2017
Per Jon Heyman

The Royals remain on the hunt for rotation help even after netting Trevor Cahill, Heyman writes. (That much may be evidenced by their apparent talks for Francisco Liriano, which are reportedly progressing.) Heyman notes that Kansas City even called the Athletics on Sonny Gray and the Rangers on Yu Darvish, though the team was realistic about the fact that it doesn’t have much of a chance of outbidding the competition for either player.
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KCCHIEFS27 09:19 PM 07-27-2017
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Depends on how into sports Patterson's heirs are. He was the biggest piece of the wealth in that ownership group, and he's gone.


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Illig certainly isn't THAT much further behind Patterson
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BWillie 09:25 PM 07-27-2017
Michael Gigliotti, 4th rounder.
111 ABs, .351 avg, 26 BB, 13 Ks, 10 SB, 2 HR. 20 yrs old. Only rookie ball, but pretty nice numbers. Supposedly above-average defender as well.
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penbrook 09:25 PM 07-27-2017
Dusty Coleman hit a 3 run bomb tonight
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cosmo20002 01:05 AM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin:
I vote a resounding "no".

Cut the guys loose. let them carry on with what could be a HOF career. We'll press on and look forward to the future.

Like us, Moose, Hos [et al] will always have Kansas City. We must learn from Detroit
^this is the guy who started an "Official 2014-15 Royals offseason" thread in the middle of the 2014 World Series.
Unfuckingforgivable.
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Archie F. Swin 04:40 AM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
^this is the guy who started an "Official 2014-15 Royals offseason" thread in the middle of the 2014 World Series.
Un****ingforgivable.
Whoa. Oh shit
I just got quoted in the Royals repository!
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mikeyis4dcats. 08:33 AM 07-28-2017
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
Downtown stadium talk back on?
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/ed...163815783.html
sounds like the Chamber-like group wants it but no one else

Originally Posted by :
In the meeting, sources tell The Star, the team indicated it still has no interest in moving to a downtown stadium. The team’s opposition has long been a hurdle to any serious discussion of downtown baseball.
Jackson County now says it isn’t keen on the idea, either. “The County is not advocating for, nor funding any efforts for any stadium relocation,” the county’s statement said.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/ed...#storylink=cpy
As mentioned, Jackson County would have to give the Chiefs another pile of cash too, so that would kill even more budgets.
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