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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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TLO 01:09 PM 12-01-2020
If anyone cares to watch the CDC ACIP meeting

https://www.ustream.tv/channel/VWBXKBR8af4
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DaFace 01:24 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
2nd lockdown...where?
We're back to outdoor-only dining (or takeout) in my county in Colorado. (It varies based on case metrics.)
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BigCatDaddy 01:27 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
We're back to outdoor-only dining (or takeout) in my county in Colorado. (It varies based on case metrics.)
I just wasn't sure where the lock down was at he is referring to.
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Discuss Thrower 01:30 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:
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petegz28 01:35 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
We are wide open here in Florida. Been that way since April. Gov. is threatening to cut off funding to counties that put a mask mandate in their county or city.


Businesses are still closing and struggling.

If only there weren't 49 other states than Florida :-)
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petegz28 01:37 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
I just wasn't sure where the lock down was at he is referring to.
L.A., NY, NJ, Philly and Chicago are the big places locking down again right now.
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Indian Chief 01:52 PM 12-01-2020
NJ never unlocked, I'm not kidding.
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MahomesMagic 02:14 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
We are wide open here in Florida. Been that way since April. Gov. is threatening to cut off funding to counties that put a mask mandate in their county or city.


Businesses are still closing and struggling.
There is certainly an economic crisis going at the same time, even in states that are more open. But go ask NY restaurant owners how they are doing. In New York where I live there is outside dining still available. Of course I don't see too many people dining at a picnic table while it is snowing.

I know that many restaurants within walking distance of me just closed for now. They aren't going to even try to do take out only. I was spending money at these places until just recently.
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TLO 02:41 PM 12-01-2020
Long article about China lying their ass off in regards to the beginning of the pandemic.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/asia/...ntl/index.html
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Discuss Thrower 02:41 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Long article about China lying their ass off in regards to the beginning of the pandemic.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/asia/...ntl/index.html
No, they weren't.
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Mr. Plow 03:24 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
And for the latest episode of "why don't people take this seriously??"

LA County Supervisor dines at restaurant hours after voting to ban outdoor dining

https://www.foxla.com/news/la-county...outdoor-dining

SANTA MONICA, Calif. - Just hours after Los Angeles County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl voted to ban outdoor dining at L.A. County’s 31,000 restaurants over COVID-19 safety concerns, she visited a restaurant in Santa Monica, where she dined outdoors, FOX 11 learned on Monday.
Do as I say, not as I do.
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Marcellus 03:37 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
If only there weren't 49 other states than Florida :-)
Florida isn't any different than Missouri, its all based on municipal restrictions rather than state. A friend of mine just cancelled his annual Xmas trip to Ft. Meyers because of the mask mandates. So to act like its wide open but businesses are still struggling is disingenuous at best. Florida isn't wide open, there are plenty of local restrictions in place. Yea its not NJ or NY but its not business as usual by any means.

Originally Posted by :
SANIBEL ISLAND UPDATE
Face coverings are generally required for every person over the age of 6 while indoors at public places and while outdoors in public places when proper social distancing is not possible.

For additional Sanibel Island updates click here.



FORT MYERS BEACH UPDATE
Fort Myers Beach requires everyone over the age of 6 to have access to a face covering while they are away from their place of residence and to wear a face covering when social distancing is not possible. Additionally, all business operators, employees and customers must wear a face covering while inside the business.

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vailpass 04:10 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
2nd lockdown...where?
San Jose/Silicon Valley is now locked down. You travel more than 150 miles out of town you have to quarantine for two weeks. The 49ers are playing out their home games in Arizona because Santa Clara kicked them out.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49...ara-county-ban
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TLO 04:30 PM 12-01-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
If anyone cares to watch the CDC ACIP meeting

https://www.ustream.tv/channel/VWBXKBR8af4
I watched bits and pieces of this. Nothing major really came out of it.

The 1a) group is going to be medical personnel, and residents in long term care facilities.

They voted on this and the tally was 13 yes, 1 no. The doctor that voted no may have given her reasoning for doing so at one point, but I didn't catch it.
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TLO 06:14 PM 12-01-2020
CDC to release revised guidance reducing COVID-19 quarantine time from 14 days to 7-10 days

The CDC is expected to announce that quarantine can end on Day 7, after receiving a negative test result, or on Day 10, without testing.


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is expected to release revised guidance on quarantine time for those who may have been exposed to the novel coronavirus from 14 days to 7 days, for those who have received a negative test, and 10 days for those who have not been tested, Fox News has learned.

Fox News obtained an internal CDC document on Tuesday which outlined the proposed changes. A source told Fox News that the changes have been discussed with and approved by the White House Coronavirus Task Force.

The CDC is expected to release the revised guidance on Wednesday, a source told Fox News.


“Quarantine is used to keep someone who might have been exposed to COVID-19 away from others. Quarantine helps prevent spread of disease that can occur before a person knows they have the virus,” the document states. “CDC and other scientists have explored changing the current recommendation to quarantine for 14 days.”

“Reducing the length of quarantine may increase compliance by reducing economic hardship,” the document continues. “In addition, the reduction in time will lessen stress on the public health system, especially when new infections are rapidly rising.”

The document states that “based on local resources, quarantine can end on Day 7 after receiving a negative test result” or on “Day 10 without testing.”


“After stopping quarantine, you should: watch for symptoms until 14 days after exposure; if you have symptoms, immediately self-isolate and contact your local public health authority or healthcare provider; wear a mask, stay at least 6 feet from others, wash your hands, avoid crowds, and take other steps to prevent the spread of COVID-19,” the document states.

The document adds, however, that the CDC “continues to recommend quarantine for 14 days to more completely reduce the risk of spread of COVID-19.”

“CDC recognizes that any quarantine shorter than 14 days balances reduced burden against a small possibility of spreading the virus,” the document states. “These recommendations are based on what we know now.”

The document added that: “CDC will continue to evaluate new information and update recommendations as needed.”

A senior administration official told Fox News that the revised guidance is “long overdue,” and “something that should have happened sooner.”


The official told Fox News that the CDC's revised recommendations were guided by extensive modeling studies by CDC scientists, as well as scientists from outside the agency. The official said that the risk of COVID transmission remains the "lowest with 14 days of quarantine," but that the new options introduce an estimated 1% "residual risk" if quarantine is shorted to 10 days, and 5% residual risk of quarantine is reduced to 7 days, if you also add a test.

The official said that the "small amount of increased risk" with these new options "needs to be weighed against the benefits of reduced economic hardship, reduced stress on the public health system, and better compliance with quarantine and contact tracing that could improve overall control of new infections."

The revised guidance, expected to be announced on Wednesday, comes as the Trump administration said deliveries of a COVID-19 vaccine will begin as early as this week, and would be available first for front-line workers, medical personnel and senior citizens.


Next week, regulators at the Food and Drug Administration are expected to review Pfizer's request for an emergency use authorization for its vaccine developed with BioNTech.

The latest trial data for Pfizer and BioNTech's vaccine, unveiled earlier this month, showed it was 90% effective.

In addition, Moderna said its vaccine is 94.5% effective in preventing COVID-19. AstraZeneca also reported preliminary results that showed its vaccine efficacy ranged from 62% to 90%, depending on the dosage amount given to participants.


According to Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, the vaccines will be “shipped” within 24 hours of FDA approval and then it would be up to “nursing homes, hospitals, and pharmacies to get that dispensed.”

“It really could be within days of FDA approval we’ll start seeing vaccines in people’s arms which is frankly incredible,” Azar said Monday.

The United States has reported more than 13.5 million cases of COVID-19 since the onset of the pandemic, and more than 267,000 deaths.
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