Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Cases are starting to increase as expected. At the moment the number of deaths is holding at 73 and the number of serious\critical cases is staying at 12 [Reply]
This morning I tested positive for Covid 19. I feel ok, I have no symptoms so far but have been isolated since I found out about my possible exposure to the virus. Stay home people and be pragmatic. I will keep you updated on how I’m doing �������� No panic. pic.twitter.com/Lg7HVMZglZ
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Just relax. Remember this line:
Can’t you understand what’s happening here? Don’t you see what’s happening? Potter isn’t selling. Potter’s buying! And why? Because we’re panicking and he’s not. That’s why. He’s picking up some bargains. Now, we can get through this thing all right. We’ve got to stick together, though. We’ve got to have faith in each other.
That’s been my investing strategy since I was 21. Buy when others are panicking. It really does work.
That same line has been going through my mind for a week or so now :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Just relax. Remember this line:
Can’t you understand what’s happening here? Don’t you see what’s happening? Potter isn’t selling. Potter’s buying! And why? Because we’re panicking and he’s not. That’s why. He’s picking up some bargains. Now, we can get through this thing all right. We’ve got to stick together, though. We’ve got to have faith in each other.
That’s been my investing strategy since I was 21. Buy when others are panicking. It really does work.
I'm not talking about investing. I've been buying the entire leg down. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TLO:
So I can't get in to speak to my counselor for over a week. I wouldn't mind hearing some advice from you guys on things I can do to alleviate this stress and anxiety regarding this disease.
I'd like to stay up to date on the current information, but I do feel like I'm overloading myself right now with TOO much information.
Tomorrow there will be a Starcraft 2 qualifier tournament on https://www.twitch.tv/wardiii at noonish CDT. It's a European qualifier, but I don't know who the participants are and I think players from any region can play if they're willing to deal with the lag. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
59 million people were infected with H1N1 in the U.S. If 1% of them died (which is a reasonable estimate of where the CFR will fall out), that would be 590,000 people. Swine flu killed 12,000.
1% doesn't sound like a big number, but across the entire population, it's insanely high.
I don’t believe 1% would be accurate all given how common the symptoms are and how many people will likely have this and never need to do anything about it. For example, South Korea has the results of about 260,000 tests. About 8,200 are positive. 3.1%. Of those positives they have had 75 deaths which is about 1%. So I understand you are saying 1% of identified cases but I’m going to guess that them testing only a fraction of their population has not resulted in anything close to the number of actual cases due to the symptoms of this varying so wildly and in general attributable to the common cold for many people who will never seek any treatment.
I view that as a contrast to something like swine flu which seemed to have been much more likely to be closely identified to the accurate numbers due to its quicker and more commonly severe onset of symptoms. There are probably thousands, if not tens of thousands of unidentified cases in South Korea but the deaths due to it are probably not to far from being accurate to what is reported. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
This is marketing strategy at its finest.
The Invisible Man's box office numbers blew away any projections so it's smart to release it on PPV because the demand is high and movie theaters are closing around the country.
The Hunt grossly underperformed but since it's been in the news lately, it's smart to release it PPV before it's an afterthought.
For a lot of people it will cost them more to see it at $20 at home than it would have cost them in the theaters. Though I have no idea how the difference in distribution affects their revenue. [Reply]
Originally Posted by FAX:
Speaking of handling this self-isolation/voluntarily-quarantined stuff and the impact of big business on our miserable, disgusting, increasingly temporary lives ...
I propose that Amazon makes all their movies free of charge for 60 days. Comcast, too.
FAX
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I have no doubt that this pandemic will ultimately change the way feature films are distributed but I do think that the theaters will be packed once the restrictions are lifted because people will be craving "normalcy".
The only question that remains is when...
yeah how many innovations, TV, cable etc. were supposed to bury the theatres. I still enjoy going to the movies. I’d pay money to see some new release’s. So maybe the big movies stay in the theatres but the lesser ones, get streamed? [Reply]
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
I don’t believe 1% would be accurate all given how common the symptoms are and how many people will likely have this and never need to do anything about it. For example, South Korea has the results of about 260,000 tests. About 8,200 are positive. 3.1%. Of those positives they have had 75 deaths which is about 1%. So I understand you are saying 1% of identified cases but I’m going to guess that them testing only a fraction of their population has not resulted in anything close to the number of actual cases due to the symptoms of this varying so wildly and in general attributable to the common cold for many people who will never seek any treatment.
I view that as a contrast to something like swine flu which seemed to have been much more likely to be closely identified to the accurate numbers due to its quicker and more commonly severe onset of symptoms. There are probably thousands, if not tens of thousands of unidentified cases in South Korea but the deaths due to it are probably not to far from being accurate to what is reported.
Sure, but debating what the real number is is an exercise in futility. It's pretty solid to assume this is way more deadly than H1N1, though. [Reply]
