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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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htismaqe 01:51 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
Well, if I say top 12-15, that is setting a low bar in my opinion. If he's worth the trade and the $, he's certainly gotta play at a top 10 level... depending on what the stats look like, we're probably splitting hairs from 7-10. We'll see.
Now this I can agree with.
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RaidersOftheCellar 01:54 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
I like stats. PFF grades are not stats, just one guy’s opinion.
You mean you like to cherry pick a few stats that fit your narrative and ignore dozens of others.
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Mile High Mania 01:56 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
2021 Seattle had more rushing yards, TDs and YPC last season than the Donks...on 40 fewer attempts.



We've danced to this song already... Penny came out of nowhere those final 3 games and put up 500 yards. Yes, they still count, but that ground game sure as hell was not a consistent threat.

Williams and Gordon could very realistically combine for 2500 rushing yards and 20 TDs on their own, they had 17 combined TDs last year with 1800 rushing yards and another 500 receiving. That duo is what needs to be a force for this whole thing to work out as Denver hopes. Wilson and those receivers can do a lot of great things with that ground game performing high.
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MagicHef 01:57 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by FlaChief58:
So you don't think that those are the top 7 qb's in the league?

Defend your answer.
I did with passer rating already. If there's another stat you want to go with, that's fine.
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MagicHef 02:00 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
You mean you like to cherry pick a few stats that fit your narrative and ignore dozens of others.
As far as I can see, I'm the only one who has given out any QB stats in this discussion. Everyone else just keeps saying names and posting emojis.
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RaidersOftheCellar 02:02 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
We've danced to this song already... Penny came out of nowhere those final 3 games and put up 500 yards. Yes, they still count, but that ground game sure as hell was not a consistent threat.
The guy that your fanbase is calling a star had two 100 yd games and fell under 4 YPC in over 40% of his games.
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Mile High Mania 02:04 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
The guy that your fanbase is calling a star had two 100 yd games and fell under 4 YPC in over 40% of his games.
You're referring to the rookie that had exactly 50% of the production split with Gordon... that guy? He is the lead RB this year, that was not the case in 2021.
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BlackOp 02:08 PM 09-01-2022
Imagine being so desperate that you give up 3 players, two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks and $250 million dollars....

The realizing your new QB is ranked only 4 slots higher than Carr...and still 3rd in your own division (not conference).

That's some fine, high-level wheeling and dealing right there...especially as said teams success is 100% contingent on hoping the 61th ranked QB plays better than he has in years.

Clown-show franchise...


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RaidersOftheCellar 02:09 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
You're referring to the rookie that had exactly 50% of the production split with Gordon... that guy? He is the lead RB this year, that was not the case in 2021.
Point being, he hasn't proven a whole lot yet. More importantly, your line hasn't been that good.

Remember, Jeudy was going to set the world ablaze in year 2, Sutton was going to be a top 10 WR, "Horse Cock Lock" was going to kill it in year 2, etc etc.
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Willie Lanier 02:15 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Point being, he hasn't proven a whole lot yet. More importantly, your line hasn't been that good.

Remember, Jeudy was going to set the world ablaze in year 2, Sutton was going to be a top 10 WR, "Horse Cock Lock" was going to kill it in year 2, etc etc.
Yeah, if you're not catching the trend from the fans of that particular franchise, WAKE UP, here's what they present
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BlackOp 02:20 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
The guy that your fanbase is calling a star had two 100 yd games and fell under 4 YPC in over 40% of his games.
But those performances are way more important by Williams...they happened in the middle of the season...not at the end when teams are trying to make the post-season.

Nevermind Donks got to play 4 of the 5 worst teams in the NFL..that part isn't important either.
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Quesadilla Joe 02:36 PM 09-01-2022
Nick Korte's nerdy thoughts on Russ' contract:

Spoiler!


https://contracts.thinair.football/2...nsion-details/
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TomBarndtsTwin 02:37 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
We've danced to this song already... Penny came out of nowhere those final 3 games and put up 500 yards. Yes, they still count, but that ground game sure as hell was not a consistent threat.

Williams and Gordon could very realistically combine for 2500 rushing yards and 20 TDs on their own, they had 17 combined TDs last year with 1800 rushing yards and another 500 receiving. That duo is what needs to be a force for this whole thing to work out as Denver hopes. Wilson and those receivers can do a lot of great things with that ground game performing high.
:-)

So just so we're clear, with the Donkos offensive line, you think it's realistic to possibly expect Williams and Gordon to do something that has NEVER been done in the history of the NFL by a team's Top 2 RB's???

Seems legit.
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ToxSocks 02:41 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
So what's the total bill so far for the Russel trade?

2022 1st round
2022 2nd round
2022 5th round
2023 1st round
2023 2nd round
$245 Million
Noah Fant
Drew Lock
Shelby Harris
......and Tim Patrick's knee.



:-) :-) :-)
Updated.
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BlackOp 02:54 PM 09-01-2022
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe:
Nick Korte's nerdy thoughts on Russ' contract:

Spoiler!


https://contracts.thinair.football/2...nsion-details/
"At signing: $33 million. (Wilson will be paid $57 million this season, as you can see in the sidebar, but $24 million of that was already on the books as old money.)"

$57 million for last place...seems like a good deal. It did get you one vote (out of a possible 25) to win the division...money well spent. You've arrived...




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